Reading troubles

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Reading In Talks With The EFL To Avoid Being Suspended From The League On 5th April 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7Mr9Q0fgSg
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hepcat wrote: Sat Mar 29, 2025 10:34 am How will this pan out ? It's 100% humiliating for the EFL who-not for the first time-have approved unfit and improper people to take over clubs despite endless warnings and evidence. The EFL is actualy unfit to run the EFL. But-as with all quango's (or even public sector management) there is no come back, no penalty,no accountability-beyond finding a scapegoat if one is required- in fact only further well paid sinecures await along with an MBE or Knighthood.
Reading have been asset stripped making them a rent and debt club for anyone taking over. Bury must be terrifying Reading fans. There, another EFL approved fit and proper person-Dale-had bought the club for £1, had no way of funding the club at all, who-as with Yongge-was then suddenly deemed unfit by the same approving EFL who ordered him to sell the club. He refused (or rather demanded a ridiculous £3m ) and the club was expelled. Youngge could do the same. What will the EFL do then ? I would think they'd drag it out to the start of next season to make their minds up, but it looks bad for Reading. Madejski's Reading with the hotel/car park/ground owned by the club was perfectly sustainable . Anyone would buy that. But with the hotel/car park/ground flogged off (Reading have to pay rent to play at the ground they used to own) and Youngge tried to flog the training ground-who'd really want whats left ?
The FA/EFL etc are all incapable of running and protecting football/looking after clubs. It could be any club in the future. We need to get away from "Oh,its only Reading" to seeing the larger picture.It's us and everyone else as well. Spencer Day was fit and proper enough in 1991,given the same picture today,(say our mess began in 2024)the EFL would still approve him only to realise he's unfit and force a sale-which would 99.9% be certain to follow the Dale/Bury road to oblivion.
The whole league set up/governance is a joke-32 years after we set a trend.
This is one big reason why we need a Football Regulator, to take the oversight of the 'fit and proper person' test out of the hands of the EPL and especially the incompetent EFL.
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No one should be allowed to take over a football club unless they have a definitive attachment to them. The fit and proper persons act should also include the morality of the people taking over so they are conducive to a real community club and not just a tick box exercise.
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brian bloomfield wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 12:49 pm No one should be allowed to take over a football club unless they have a definitive attachment to them. The fit and proper persons act should also include the morality of the people taking over so they are conducive to a real community club and not just a tick box exercise.
Does the current ATFC Chairman have an attachment? He did however get a mention in Jeff Stellings recent book.
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Graham Stovold wrote: Sat Mar 29, 2025 12:57 pm
Aldershot wrote: Sat Mar 29, 2025 7:50 am In a week, Reading could cease to exist
https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/read ... st-3610230
They will wriggle out of it somehow, the dodgy handshakes will be in full flow within the EFL & surprise,surprise, they will be saved.
Good. I hope they do wriggle out of it. The last thing that we as Aldershot fans should be wishing is for someone else's club to be liquidated. I don't care if they are our historic rivals (and it is very much historic these days as we haven't played them in a competitive game for 35 years), we should have some bloody decency.
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Marcus ex W.Midlands Shot wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 7:17 pm
Graham Stovold wrote: Sat Mar 29, 2025 12:57 pm
Aldershot wrote: Sat Mar 29, 2025 7:50 am In a week, Reading could cease to exist
https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/read ... st-3610230
They will wriggle out of it somehow, the dodgy handshakes will be in full flow within the EFL & surprise,surprise, they will be saved.
Good. I hope they do wriggle out of it. The last thing that we as Aldershot fans should be wishing is for someone else's club to be liquidated. I don't care if they are our historic rivals (and it is very much historic these days as we haven't played them in a competitive game for 35 years), we should have some bloody decency.
I totally agree with you, Marcus.
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Marcus ex W.Midlands Shot wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 7:17 pm
Graham Stovold wrote: Sat Mar 29, 2025 12:57 pm
Aldershot wrote: Sat Mar 29, 2025 7:50 am In a week, Reading could cease to exist
https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/read ... st-3610230
They will wriggle out of it somehow, the dodgy handshakes will be in full flow within the EFL & surprise,surprise, they will be saved.
Good. I hope they do wriggle out of it. The last thing that we as Aldershot fans should be wishing is for someone else's club to be liquidated. I don't care if they are our historic rivals (and it is very much historic these days as we haven't played them in a competitive game for 35 years), we should have some bloody decency.
Yeah well said. Reading are a weird old club but they don't deserve to not exist.
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Marcus ex W.Midlands Shot wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 7:17 pm
Graham Stovold wrote: Sat Mar 29, 2025 12:57 pm
Aldershot wrote: Sat Mar 29, 2025 7:50 am In a week, Reading could cease to exist
https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/read ... st-3610230
They will wriggle out of it somehow, the dodgy handshakes will be in full flow within the EFL & surprise,surprise, they will be saved.
Good. I hope they do wriggle out of it. The last thing that we as Aldershot fans should be wishing is for someone else's club to be liquidated. I don't care if they are our historic rivals (and it is very much historic these days as we haven't played them in a competitive game for 35 years), we should have some bloody decency.
Where did I say I am wishing it to happen ? This thread mentions about the so called fit & proper test being an absolute sham, I just gave an opinion along those lines .

For the record, I couldn’t care less if they manage to survive or go belly up. Makes no odds to me, I will sleep easy
:D In my humble opinion..Just saying
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Premier League to oblivion – Reading fans ponder the unthinkable
https://www.thetimes.com/sport/football ... -tgdmmfbh7
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Silasgoldeen wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 7:50 pm
Marcus ex W.Midlands Shot wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 7:17 pm
Graham Stovold wrote: Sat Mar 29, 2025 12:57 pm

They will wriggle out of it somehow, the dodgy handshakes will be in full flow within the EFL & surprise,surprise, they will be saved.
Good. I hope they do wriggle out of it. The last thing that we as Aldershot fans should be wishing is for someone else's club to be liquidated. I don't care if they are our historic rivals (and it is very much historic these days as we haven't played them in a competitive game for 35 years), we should have some bloody decency.
Yeah well said. Reading are a weird old club but they don't deserve to not exist.
What’s weird about Reading ? Nothing as far as I can tell. When it was well run by Madjeski, I was happy to see them doing well because at the time, they deserved their success .

It now appears they have been very badly run, so they deserve whatever comes their way. It works both ways in my eyes.
:D In my humble opinion..Just saying
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Graham Stovold wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:26 pm
Silasgoldeen wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 7:50 pm
Marcus ex W.Midlands Shot wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 7:17 pm

Good. I hope they do wriggle out of it. The last thing that we as Aldershot fans should be wishing is for someone else's club to be liquidated. I don't care if they are our historic rivals (and it is very much historic these days as we haven't played them in a competitive game for 35 years), we should have some bloody decency.
Yeah well said. Reading are a weird old club but they don't deserve to not exist.
What’s weird about Reading ? Nothing as far as I can tell. When it was well run by Madjeski, I was happy to see them doing well because at the time, they deserved their success .

It now appears they have been very badly run, so they deserve whatever comes their way. It works both ways in my eyes.
We used to call them Andreading because people in the town would support Man Utd (or Chelsea etc) and reading. They had a nice old ground and moved to the side of a motorway. Their fans are a curious bunch. Their old owner was a strange one. They've been all over the place in the league. Dunno. I just find them a bit weird.

You say they deserve whatever comes their way but does a club deserve this because some charlatan took control and ruined everything?
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Would be interesting if they are put in the national league..
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Silasgoldeen wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 6:09 pm
Graham Stovold wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:26 pm
Silasgoldeen wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 7:50 pm

Yeah well said. Reading are a weird old club but they don't deserve to not exist.
What’s weird about Reading ? Nothing as far as I can tell. When it was well run by Madjeski, I was happy to see them doing well because at the time, they deserved their success .

It now appears they have been very badly run, so they deserve whatever comes their way. It works both ways in my eyes.
We used to call them Andreading because people in the town would support Man Utd (or Chelsea etc) and reading. They had a nice old ground and moved to the side of a motorway. Their fans are a curious bunch. Their old owner was a strange one. They've been all over the place in the league. Dunno. I just find them a bit weird.

You say they deserve whatever comes their way but does a club deserve this because some charlatan took control and ruined everything?
No different in the surrounding areas to us with people supporting Chelsea ,West Ham man united . The most cringe things I ever saw was in the Queen Vic in Aldershot one Saturday lunchtime. Pompey were on live tv in the prem . Full time a guy at the bar took his pompey shirt off to reveal a Shots shirt underneath.
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lowerbourneshot wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 11:56 pm
Silasgoldeen wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 6:09 pm
Graham Stovold wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:26 pm

What’s weird about Reading ? Nothing as far as I can tell. When it was well run by Madjeski, I was happy to see them doing well because at the time, they deserved their success .

It now appears they have been very badly run, so they deserve whatever comes their way. It works both ways in my eyes.
We used to call them Andreading because people in the town would support Man Utd (or Chelsea etc) and reading. They had a nice old ground and moved to the side of a motorway. Their fans are a curious bunch. Their old owner was a strange one. They've been all over the place in the league. Dunno. I just find them a bit weird.

You say they deserve whatever comes their way but does a club deserve this because some charlatan took control and ruined everything?
No different in the surrounding areas to us with people supporting Chelsea ,West Ham man united . The most cringe things I ever saw was in the Queen Vic in Aldershot one Saturday lunchtime. Pompey were on live tv in the prem . Full time a guy at the bar took his pompey shirt off to reveal a Shots shirt underneath.
haha, nice. I think the trick was that this was back when Reading were up the leagues, so they were supporting two premier league teams at once. It can't have been many people but I think there was some local news feature or something where people talked about their mixed allegiances which started it all off. At least here there's a bit of clearance between teams.

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