New Ground

[ShotOnTarget]

Let's stop talking about the new ground and the signing of the lease for now, most of us on here think it is still some way off ever happening but if Shahid gets it over the line he'll go down in history forever.

... as the person who surrendered a load of land without providing the club with new revenue streams? Last week's update included some welcome changes to the plans, but we really need facilities that offer 7-day income if the club is to move forward. I hope the chairman finds a way to include these.

Absolutely %

There are a number of ideas to create revenue streams that come to mind. The fact that none have been announced, let alone progressed, in the 6 years that the 'imminent' start of the development informs me that the thinking within the club is very much bounded by narrow objectives.

[chimpster99]

just to let you know the tennis court is going to be extra parking spaces for the Woking game, the bush a fence to it will removed and shingle put down for cars to enter, after the game bush and fence will be put back .

Car parking will be one of the biggest problems if/when the proposed development takes place. In addition,new housing units will have to be provided with one space each .
Subterranean parking…sky hooks…?

Undercroft parking should suffice for the housing/apartments. Providing replacement parking within the ground will be a real challenge.

[Silasgoldeen]

... as the person who surrendered a load of land without providing the club with new revenue streams? Last week's update included some welcome changes to the plans, but we really need facilities that offer 7-day income if the club is to move forward. I hope the chairman finds a way to include these.

Absolutely %

There are a number of ideas to create revenue streams that come to mind. The fact that none have been announced, let alone progressed, in the 6 years that the 'imminent' start of the development informs me that the thinking within the club is very much bounded by narrow objectives.

I think it's easy to come up with these ideas but perhaps the most useful would be to look at examples of other clubs who've made this work and created these extra revenue streams. I have no idea if these even exists. I remember interviewing the Bedford Town chairman many years ago and he was talking about how they were going to make the New Eyrie a destination will all kinds of stuff around it, but ultimately there has to be unmet demand, and nothing happened. The same would apply here I imagine: what unmet demand exists that would attract people to spend money in this part of Aldershot? I genuinely have no idea.

[ShotOnTarget]

Absolutely %

There are a number of ideas to create revenue streams that come to mind. The fact that none have been announced, let alone progressed, in the 6 years that the 'imminent' start of the development informs me that the thinking within the club is very much bounded by narrow objectives.

I think it's easy to come up with these ideas but perhaps the most useful would be to look at examples of other clubs who've made this work and created these extra revenue streams. I have no idea if these even exists. I remember interviewing the Bedford Town chairman many years ago and he was talking about how they were going to make the New Eyrie a destination will all kinds of stuff around it, but ultimately there has to be unmet demand, and nothing happened. The same would apply here I imagine: what unmet demand exists that would attract people to spend money in this part of Aldershot? I genuinely have no idea.

For a start, I would conduct a feasibility study on the North Stand having a fully solar-panelled roof tilted so as to face south, with the car park equipped with EV charging points using the generated electricity.

[WTF]

There are a number of ideas to create revenue streams that come to mind. The fact that none have been announced, let alone progressed, in the 6 years that the 'imminent' start of the development informs me that the thinking within the club is very much bounded by narrow objectives.

I think it's easy to come up with these ideas but perhaps the most useful would be to look at examples of other clubs who've made this work and created these extra revenue streams. I have no idea if these even exists. I remember interviewing the Bedford Town chairman many years ago and he was talking about how they were going to make the New Eyrie a destination will all kinds of stuff around it, but ultimately there has to be unmet demand, and nothing happened. The same would apply here I imagine: what unmet demand exists that would attract people to spend money in this part of Aldershot? I genuinely have no idea.

For a start, I would conduct a feasibility study on the North Stand having a fully solar-panelled roof tilted so as to face south, with the car park equipped with EV charging points using the generated electricity.

I think the only feasibility study that has been done is how many houses/flats that can be built which apparently opens the funding for a "redevelopment" of the Rec, now to include the East Bank which I cannot see happening.

The income from the vital extra revenue daily/weekly
streams the club urgently requires and needs appears to be non existent......

[Weybourne Shot]

As an example of what can be achieved Bromley FC have invested heavily in their ground in recent years, and can now boast impressive leisure facilities for hire bringing in additional income.

https://www.bromleyfc.co.uk/facility-hire/

[WTF]

As an example of what can be achieved Bromley FC have invested heavily in their ground in recent years, and can now boast impressive leisure facilities for hire bringing in additional income.

https://www.bromleyfc.co.uk/facility-hire/

the Gym and Fitness suite plus plus looks excellent and well thought out!

[Silasgoldeen]

As an example of what can be achieved Bromley FC have invested heavily in their ground in recent years, and can now boast impressive leisure facilities for hire bringing in additional income.

https://www.bromleyfc.co.uk/facility-hire/

ah, good one. ok so that's perfect isn't it? gyms are booming and an association with a National League football club could only help.

[ShotOnTarget]

As an example of what can be achieved Bromley FC have invested heavily in their ground in recent years, and can now boast impressive leisure facilities for hire bringing in additional income.

https://www.bromleyfc.co.uk/facility-hire/

ah, good one. ok so that's perfect isn't it? gyms are booming and an association with a National League football club could only help.

There are so many sub-projects that could be accommodated should a significant development take place. As well as Gyms, for example, multi-use rooms that could be jointly funded by other potential users (colleges, community groups) and many others.

But these are ideas are nothing new. The willingness to listen would be.

[Silasgoldeen]

As an example of what can be achieved Bromley FC have invested heavily in their ground in recent years, and can now boast impressive leisure facilities for hire bringing in additional income.

https://www.bromleyfc.co.uk/facility-hire/

ah, good one. ok so that's perfect isn't it? gyms are booming and an association with a National League football club could only help.

There are so many sub-projects that could be accommodated should a significant development take place. As well as Gyms, for example, multi-use rooms that could be jointly funded by other potential users (colleges, community groups) and many others.

But these are ideas are nothing new. The willingness to listen would be.

yea fair, I always worry about things like multi use rooms because there must be a million of them available and available and you're potentially competing with other more desirable locations there, but as a piece of the puzzle why not?

[ShotOnTarget]

ah, good one. ok so that's perfect isn't it? gyms are booming and an association with a National League football club could only help.

There are so many sub-projects that could be accommodated should a significant development take place. As well as Gyms, for example, multi-use rooms that could be jointly funded by other potential users (colleges, community groups) and many others.

But these are ideas are nothing new. The willingness to listen would be.

yea fair, I always worry about things like multi use rooms because there must be a million of them available and available and you're potentially competing with other more desirable locations there, but as a piece of the puzzle why not?

Surprisingly, the availability of rooms, halls etc in this area is quite low. Church halls, village halls are often occupied at peak times.

[chimpster99]

A decent franchised gym, some serviced office space and a multi-function room should all work at the Rec. If done right, the latter could offer conferences, community meetings, nursery education and matchday hospitality to name a few things. There needs to be more bravery and belief from the Board in devising the plans.

[karlready]

just to let you know the tennis court is going to be extra parking spaces for the Woking game, the bush a fence to it will removed and shingle put down for cars to enter, after the game bush and fence will be put back .

Car parking will be one of the biggest problems if/when the proposed development takes place. In addition,new housing units will have to be provided with one space each .
Subterranean parking…sky hooks…?

Undercroft parking should suffice for the housing/apartments. Providing replacement parking within the ground will be a real challenge.

Cars can’t be accommodated at the present. Losing the rear car park is inevitable with development. Any “ facilities “ development can only realistically be at the High St end, presumably under the new stand, on the area presently covered by overflow cars on match days. Multifunction rooms, etc. need parking.We blew it all when Parsons Barracks was lost.
Not deliberately being negative, just realistic.

[Gone West]

Car parking will be one of the biggest problems if/when the proposed development takes place. In addition,new housing units will have to be provided with one space each .
Subterranean parking…sky hooks…?

Undercroft parking should suffice for the housing/apartments. Providing replacement parking within the ground will be a real challenge.

Cars can’t be accommodated at the present. Losing the rear car park is inevitable with development. Any “ facilities “ development can only realistically be at the High St end, presumably under the new stand, on the area presently covered by overflow cars on match days. Multifunction rooms, etc. need parking.We blew it all when Parsons Barracks was lost.
Not deliberately being negative, just realistic.

Negative as it sounds I tend to agree. So many of the embryonic ideas would require parking to make them viable whether that be a gym, a conference venue, office space, a nursery school, retail space…..people have a need to drive and park for leisure activities. Retail parks with leisure facilities (gyms, cinemas etc) and free parking have been the success story of the last decade. The Mill Farm development which incorporated AFC Fylde’s new stadium, all-weather multi-sports pitches, residential, retail and hospitality is a model which could never be achieved on the Rec’s footprint - not even close.

The vision of modern facilities generating substantial revenues to help subsidise the football element feels like a pipe dream. The Rec is the wrong venue in the wrong location. A refurbishment which improves the match day experience is probably as good as it gets but even that could end up merely loading the club with more debt.

[WTF]

Undercroft parking should suffice for the housing/apartments. Providing replacement parking within the ground will be a real challenge.

Cars can’t be accommodated at the present. Losing the rear car park is inevitable with development. Any “ facilities “ development can only realistically be at the High St end, presumably under the new stand, on the area presently covered by overflow cars on match days. Multifunction rooms, etc. need parking.We blew it all when Parsons Barracks was lost.
Not deliberately being negative, just realistic.

Negative as it sounds I tend to agree. So many of the embryonic ideas would require parking to make them viable whether that be a gym, a conference venue, office space, a nursery school, retail space…..people have a need to drive and park for leisure activities. Retail parks with leisure facilities (gyms, cinemas etc) and free parking have been the success story of the last decade. The Mill Farm development which incorporated AFC Fylde’s new stadium, all-weather multi-sports pitches, residential, retail and hospitality is a model which could never be achieved on the Rec’s footprint - not even close.

The vision of modern facilities generating substantial revenues to help subsidise the football element feels like a pipe dream. The Rec is the wrong venue in the wrong location. A refurbishment which improves the match day experience is probably as good as it gets but even that could end up merely loading the club with more debt.

I think you are quite right the concern I have the houses/flats are built, the Rec undergoes it's development and those who made the decisions walk away leaving the club with the potential for more debt without the ability to gain other income........just saying