Redevelopment Saga

[Graham Stovold]

When walking to the Eastleigh ground yesterday, I couldn’t help but be impressed with their facilities for their supporters. A decent bar for the fans, decent ground facilities, plenty of scope for further development. You then have to think of other clubs who have improved , York, Fylde, Solihull + a few others.

None of these clubs (imo), have the passion like our supporters. It then made me think..Why do we have problems with a ground redevelopment like no one else ?

With the difficulty the BOD are having with the MOD over a section of land, my mind is made up now that relocating is the only way of moving forward. I was always of the opinion that we should stay where we are, but unless there is some sort of alternative plan, I don’t think it’s viable.

What do others think ?

[ShotOnTarget]

When walking to the Eastleigh ground yesterday, I couldn’t help but be impressed with their facilities for their supporters. A decent bar for the fans, decent ground facilities, plenty of scope for further development. You then have to think of other clubs who have improved , York, Fylde, Solihull + a few others.

None of these clubs (imo), have the passion like our supporters. It then made me think..Why do we have problems with a ground redevelopment like no one else ?

With the difficulty the BOD are having with the MOD over a section of land, my mind is made up now that relocating is the only way of moving forward. I was always of the opinion that we should stay where we are, but unless there is some sort of alternative plan, I don’t think it’s viable.

What do others think ?

The Town has a Labour MP and the country has a Labour government. Surely the MP has an expeditious route through to getting that particular issue resolved?

[Peter macdonald]

When walking to the Eastleigh ground yesterday, I couldn’t help but be impressed with their facilities for their supporters. A decent bar for the fans, decent ground facilities, plenty of scope for further development. You then have to think of other clubs who have improved , York, Fylde, Solihull + a few others.

None of these clubs (imo), have the passion like our supporters. It then made me think..Why do we have problems with a ground redevelopment like no one else ?

With the difficulty the BOD are having with the MOD over a section of land, my mind is made up now that relocating is the only way of moving forward. I was always of the opinion that we should stay where we are, but unless there is some sort of alternative plan, I don’t think it’s viable.

What do others think ?

Can’t disagree with you Graham

[Ian M]

Goodness only knows. A good example of where "no news" isn't good news.

[dougoftheshots]

Maybe ask Wates what going on as they are the ones that need the MOD land for the rd to the housing its really simple no rd no housing no rebuild.

[Dom Sterlings Left Leg]

I don't know how you do it, I'm sure there are some clever people out there that could make it happen with will on all sides but the only way this club will ever realise it's potential is to move to a purpose built stadium somewhere with all the additional income that could generate.

As we have seen from the plans, developing the current site with all it's restrictions will result in no material change to the clubs circumstance. With no change of ownership we will just continue to be poorly run and playing in a poorly thought out 'stadium' that no one is happy with and any chance we had to do anything about it blown in true Aldershot fashion.

[Adzy]

Maybe I’m wrong but I would’ve thought with the redevelopment of the town centre and the plans for redevelopment of the stadium, we would have attracted private investors to the club and I believe Azeem stated this was the plan as well.

Clearly this has not happened and without them I do not see how the full redevelopment plans can go ahead.

As it stands, the only financial benefit I see the club getting out of the redevelopment is saving in stadium repairs. It doesn’t seem as though there is anything that suggests the club will be getting anything that allows for extra revenue outside of the match day.

[IanShots]

When walking to the Eastleigh ground yesterday, I couldn’t help but be impressed with their facilities for their supporters. A decent bar for the fans, decent ground facilities, plenty of scope for further development. You then have to think of other clubs who have improved , York, Fylde, Solihull + a few others.

None of these clubs (imo), have the passion like our supporters. It then made me think..Why do we have problems with a ground redevelopment like no one else ?

With the difficulty the BOD are having with the MOD over a section of land, my mind is made up now that relocating is the only way of moving forward. I was always of the opinion that we should stay where we are, but unless there is some sort of alternative plan, I don’t think it’s viable.

What do others think ?

The Town has a Labour MP and the country has a Labour government. Surely the MP has an expeditious route through to getting that particular issue resolved?

A point I have made previously is that Shahid has lost his influence with the council with the Tories being voted out I’m afraid as that is where his connections are. That is just being realistic not being political.

It is through those connections that he managed to get as far as he has, with the long lease etc…

[ShotOnTarget]

When walking to the Eastleigh ground yesterday, I couldn’t help but be impressed with their facilities for their supporters. A decent bar for the fans, decent ground facilities, plenty of scope for further development. You then have to think of other clubs who have improved , York, Fylde, Solihull + a few others.

None of these clubs (imo), have the passion like our supporters. It then made me think..Why do we have problems with a ground redevelopment like no one else ?

With the difficulty the BOD are having with the MOD over a section of land, my mind is made up now that relocating is the only way of moving forward. I was always of the opinion that we should stay where we are, but unless there is some sort of alternative plan, I don’t think it’s viable.

What do others think ?

The Town has a Labour MP and the country has a Labour government. Surely the MP has an expeditious route through to getting that particular issue resolved?

A point I have made previously is that Shahid has lost his influence with the council with the Tories being voted out I’m afraid as that is where his connections are. That is just being realistic not being political.

It is through those connections that he managed to get as far as he has, with the long lease etc…

That makes sense Ian. The MP, though, might feel compelled to raise the issue if it was seen as consistent with their aspirations for the town and it's constituents. Being Labour, they (the MP) might be persuaded to look at it through the lens of a Community project rather than a development that sees someone making money from it.

Maybe the Supporters Club, seeing as they claim to be independent, might consider lobbying the MP with guidance from the legal team at the Football Supporters Association.

[Reg's corner]

It's probably better for all of us for the club just to announce it's all off and put us out of the misery. (Fairly obvious now) Then we should just try and make the best of what we've got. Or a fans form forum to get momentum going to appeal to the FA for funding for improvements. Or least fix the guttering!

[redblueuptoyou]

When walking to the Eastleigh ground yesterday, I couldn’t help but be impressed with their facilities for their supporters. A decent bar for the fans, decent ground facilities, plenty of scope for further development. You then have to think of other clubs who have improved , York, Fylde, Solihull + a few others.

None of these clubs (imo), have the passion like our supporters. It then made me think..Why do we have problems with a ground redevelopment like no one else ?

With the difficulty the BOD are having with the MOD over a section of land, my mind is made up now that relocating is the only way of moving forward. I was always of the opinion that we should stay where we are, but unless there is some sort of alternative plan, I don’t think it’s viable.

What do others think ?

The Town has a Labour MP and the country has a Labour government. Surely the MP has an expeditious route through to getting that particular issue resolved?

The local MP is very good. She cares about the town and will deal with any issues, regardless of said person’s political persuasion. It’s definitely worth contacting her if you have concerns/want to raise any issues.

[redblueuptoyou]

When walking to the Eastleigh ground yesterday, I couldn’t help but be impressed with their facilities for their supporters. A decent bar for the fans, decent ground facilities, plenty of scope for further development. You then have to think of other clubs who have improved , York, Fylde, Solihull + a few others.

None of these clubs (imo), have the passion like our supporters. It then made me think..Why do we have problems with a ground redevelopment like no one else ?

With the difficulty the BOD are having with the MOD over a section of land, my mind is made up now that relocating is the only way of moving forward. I was always of the opinion that we should stay where we are, but unless there is some sort of alternative plan, I don’t think it’s viable.

What do others think ?

The Town has a Labour MP and the country has a Labour government. Surely the MP has an expeditious route through to getting that particular issue resolved?

A point I have made previously is that Shahid has lost his influence with the council with the Tories being voted out I’m afraid as that is where his connections are. That is just being realistic not being political.

It is through those connections that he managed to get as far as he has, with the long lease etc…

This 100%, although you have people on Facebook supporters groups claiming Shahid is Labour (seemingly because they don’t like what he is - or rather, isn’t - doing).

[IanShots]

The Town has a Labour MP and the country has a Labour government. Surely the MP has an expeditious route through to getting that particular issue resolved?

A point I have made previously is that Shahid has lost his influence with the council with the Tories being voted out I’m afraid as that is where his connections are. That is just being realistic not being political.

It is through those connections that he managed to get as far as he has, with the long lease etc…

This 100%, although you have people on Facebook supporters groups claiming Shahid is Labour (seemingly because they don’t like what he is - or rather, isn’t - doing).

Haha really!!!


That is because people get so tribal they can’t accept that he is on their own political side of the fence, I’m sorry he very much is.

He even had Sayeeda Warsi opening the community stand years ago.

[IanShots]

The Town has a Labour MP and the country has a Labour government. Surely the MP has an expeditious route through to getting that particular issue resolved?

A point I have made previously is that Shahid has lost his influence with the council with the Tories being voted out I’m afraid as that is where his connections are. That is just being realistic not being political.

It is through those connections that he managed to get as far as he has, with the long lease etc…

That makes sense Ian. The MP, though, might feel compelled to raise the issue if it was seen as consistent with their aspirations for the town and it's constituents. Being Labour, they (the MP) might be persuaded to look at it through the lens of a Community project rather than a development that sees someone making money from it.

Maybe the Supporters Club, seeing as they claim to be independent, might consider lobbying the MP with guidance from the legal team at the Football Supporters Association.

Fair comment, maybe I will write her a letter…

[Aldershot_Rob]

I'd imagine that the labour MP will have half an eye on what is happening given that it prime land for new housing.