Long interview with Shahid
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Forgive the pedantry, Margate, but I think you mean "dwellings" rather than homes.margateshot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 8:38 am Perhaps Wates will change the plans. I would have thought that putting decent flats there would be more profitable. More homes in less space. The amount of space they would have saved by removing the EB would not be a lot, as the new stand would probably take half the space anyway. More homes would also be popular with the council who are under pressure to find space under labours housing scheme.
Google's AI Overview puts it well: "house" is a physical structure, while "home" encompasses the emotional and personal aspects of that place, representing comfort, belonging, and family. OK, this is for the houses versus homes distinction, but simply substituting "dwelling" for "house" makes the point.
The distinction is that a house/dwelling is a physical structure. A builder or property developer cannot build a home; only the people who live there (with the possible addition of their pets etc.) can do that.
The word "home" has been cynically misappropriated by builders, politicians, property developers and similar money-grabbers because they think it sounds fluffier and cosier. A "home" is easier to sell (actually or metaphorically) to a gullible public than a "house" or "dwelling". Local residents are more likely to be accepting of a number of "new homes" in their community than a "housing development". Don't let them pull the wool over your eyes.
And don't even get me started on "affordable homes".
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Can't believe your pulling Margate up on this !! i really hope it makes you feel betterOld Bob wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 12:15 pmForgive the pedantry, Margate, but I think you mean "dwellings" rather than homes.margateshot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 8:38 am Perhaps Wates will change the plans. I would have thought that putting decent flats there would be more profitable. More homes in less space. The amount of space they would have saved by removing the EB would not be a lot, as the new stand would probably take half the space anyway. More homes would also be popular with the council who are under pressure to find space under labours housing scheme.
Google's AI Overview puts it well: "house" is a physical structure, while "home" encompasses the emotional and personal aspects of that place, representing comfort, belonging, and family. OK, this is for the houses versus homes distinction, but simply substituting "dwelling" for "house" makes the point.
The distinction is that a house/dwelling is a physical structure. A builder or property developer cannot build a home; only the people who live there (with the possible addition of their pets etc.) can do that.
The word "home" has been cynically misappropriated by builders, politicians, property developers and similar money-grabbers because they think it sounds fluffier and cosier. A "home" is easier to sell (actually or metaphorically) to a gullible public than a "house" or "dwelling". Local residents are more likely to be accepting of a number of "new homes" in their community than a "housing development". Don't let them pull the wool over your eyes.
And don't even get me started on "affordable homes".

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Some people care about things like this. I completely understand that you don't, so just ignore it and carry on. No one will think less of you for it.beechcroft wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 12:30 pmCan't believe your pulling Margate up on this !! i really hope it makes you feel betterOld Bob wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 12:15 pmForgive the pedantry, Margate, but I think you mean "dwellings" rather than homes.margateshot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 8:38 am Perhaps Wates will change the plans. I would have thought that putting decent flats there would be more profitable. More homes in less space. The amount of space they would have saved by removing the EB would not be a lot, as the new stand would probably take half the space anyway. More homes would also be popular with the council who are under pressure to find space under labours housing scheme.
Google's AI Overview puts it well: "house" is a physical structure, while "home" encompasses the emotional and personal aspects of that place, representing comfort, belonging, and family. OK, this is for the houses versus homes distinction, but simply substituting "dwelling" for "house" makes the point.
The distinction is that a house/dwelling is a physical structure. A builder or property developer cannot build a home; only the people who live there (with the possible addition of their pets etc.) can do that.
The word "home" has been cynically misappropriated by builders, politicians, property developers and similar money-grabbers because they think it sounds fluffier and cosier. A "home" is easier to sell (actually or metaphorically) to a gullible public than a "house" or "dwelling". Local residents are more likely to be accepting of a number of "new homes" in their community than a "housing development". Don't let them pull the wool over your eyes.
And don't even get me started on "affordable homes".![]()
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Yes as I said just talk....
Also said he's been at the club 11 years when it's nearly 15......
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Pompous twit.Old Bob wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 12:15 pmForgive the pedantry, Margate, but I think you mean "dwellings" rather than homes.margateshot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 8:38 am Perhaps Wates will change the plans. I would have thought that putting decent flats there would be more profitable. More homes in less space. The amount of space they would have saved by removing the EB would not be a lot, as the new stand would probably take half the space anyway. More homes would also be popular with the council who are under pressure to find space under labours housing scheme.
Google's AI Overview puts it well: "house" is a physical structure, while "home" encompasses the emotional and personal aspects of that place, representing comfort, belonging, and family. OK, this is for the houses versus homes distinction, but simply substituting "dwelling" for "house" makes the point.
The distinction is that a house/dwelling is a physical structure. A builder or property developer cannot build a home; only the people who live there (with the possible addition of their pets etc.) can do that.
The word "home" has been cynically misappropriated by builders, politicians, property developers and similar money-grabbers because they think it sounds fluffier and cosier. A "home" is easier to sell (actually or metaphorically) to a gullible public than a "house" or "dwelling". Local residents are more likely to be accepting of a number of "new homes" in their community than a "housing development". Don't let them pull the wool over your eyes.
And don't even get me started on "affordable homes".
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Alex wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 11:19 amNo idea what will happen to it but I’ve just been told the BT exchange will be closed/gone within the next 5 years or so, and the smaller building in Alton.brian bloomfield wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 8:46 amThe make or break of the development will be the required social housing element. It's a pity the BT building couldn't be bought, as this would enable a more intensive build program.margateshot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 8:38 am Perhaps Wates will change the plans. I would have thought that putting decent flats there would be more profitable. More homes in less space. The amount of space they would have saved by removing the EB would not be a lot, as the new stand would probably take half the space anyway. More homes would also be popular with the council who are under pressure to find space under labours housing scheme.

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+1 and my son has just read it so another +1karlready wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 1:25 pmPompous twit.Old Bob wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 12:15 pmForgive the pedantry, Margate, but I think you mean "dwellings" rather than homes.margateshot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 8:38 am Perhaps Wates will change the plans. I would have thought that putting decent flats there would be more profitable. More homes in less space. The amount of space they would have saved by removing the EB would not be a lot, as the new stand would probably take half the space anyway. More homes would also be popular with the council who are under pressure to find space under labours housing scheme.
Google's AI Overview puts it well: "house" is a physical structure, while "home" encompasses the emotional and personal aspects of that place, representing comfort, belonging, and family. OK, this is for the houses versus homes distinction, but simply substituting "dwelling" for "house" makes the point.
The distinction is that a house/dwelling is a physical structure. A builder or property developer cannot build a home; only the people who live there (with the possible addition of their pets etc.) can do that.
The word "home" has been cynically misappropriated by builders, politicians, property developers and similar money-grabbers because they think it sounds fluffier and cosier. A "home" is easier to sell (actually or metaphorically) to a gullible public than a "house" or "dwelling". Local residents are more likely to be accepting of a number of "new homes" in their community than a "housing development". Don't let them pull the wool over your eyes.
And don't even get me started on "affordable homes".
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Why are we not questioning the credentials of a surveyor who decided the East Bank was to be condemned as horribly unsafe, only to re-evaluate it as perfectly fine a few years later?
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I'm backing Bob. Where would we be without a bit of pedantry eh?
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Thank you for that, Tony. Interesting that some people can't tell the difference between pomposity and a genuine interest in language.tonygodfrey wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 1:35 pm I'm backing Bob. Where would we be without a bit of pedantry eh?
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About 10 years or so ago the club looked at whether is was feasible to acquire the BT building, the cost of purchasing it wasn’t unreasonable but the cost of the cleanup of the site was astronomical, apparently there’s loads of asbestos in it and then all the copper cables that run out of it would need to be removed, if I remember correctly the estimated figure was about £25 million for purchase and clean up.brian bloomfield wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 1:28 pmAlex wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 11:19 amNo idea what will happen to it but I’ve just been told the BT exchange will be closed/gone within the next 5 years or so, and the smaller building in Alton.brian bloomfield wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 8:46 am
The make or break of the development will be the required social housing element. It's a pity the BT building couldn't be bought, as this would enable a more intensive build program.![]()
The BT building is a game changer
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Pomposity…vain or ostentatious display of dignity or importance.Old Bob wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 2:31 pmThank you for that, Tony. Interesting that some people can't tell the difference between pomposity and a genuine interest in language.tonygodfrey wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 1:35 pm I'm backing Bob. Where would we be without a bit of pedantry eh?
I rest my case.
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I’m confident you may know a few ‘customers’ who maybe able to assist with the copper removal turnkeyTurnkey wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:47 pmAbout 10 years or so ago the club looked at whether is was feasible to acquire the BT building, the cost of purchasing it wasn’t unreasonable but the cost of the cleanup of the site was astronomical, apparently there’s loads of asbestos in it and then all the copper cables that run out of it would need to be removed, if I remember correctly the estimated figure was about £25 million for purchase and clean up.

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And so it goes on,they’ve been talking about this since the 70’s . I ve lost count of all the plans and designs over the years, sure I’ve got some paper cuttings from at least one new ground we were going to have. All looked very grand then too.Turnkey wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:47 pmAbout 10 years or so ago the club looked at whether is was feasible to acquire the BT building, the cost of purchasing it wasn’t unreasonable but the cost of the cleanup of the site was astronomical, apparently there’s loads of asbestos in it and then all the copper cables that run out of it would need to be removed, if I remember correctly the estimated figure was about £25 million for purchase and clean up.
Didn’t happen then, doubt it will happen now. A rejuvenated East Bank will do me, with the no man’s land removed.Put away fans in the community stand ( they can have their own new entrance) and get our ground back to full capacity.Oh some new toilets would be good too.COYS