Enough is enough

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Re: Enough is enough

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Martin Patfield wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 5:37 pm
lowerbourneshot wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:40 pm
Alex wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 11:04 am Stick by what I said.

Very soon we will drop into the bottom four.

We will not get back out of it.

I have absolutely no desire at all to watch ATFC in the National League South.

As others have mentioned, instead of getting so angry and upset with it all, be easier to just stop caring!
I certainly don't think we'd come back in a hurry . I'd say at that level they'd be a few clubs on better budgets than us .

Look how long Stockport were down there.

York were down for long enough.
These teams go down, regroup, come back and push on.
Most have a plan, a backing, fans onside.


The problem with Aldershot is lack of infrastructure and a clear plan.

There was one in 92. "Get back to the football league". Then what? Absolutely nothing.
You who probably were up there in the top 5 of supporters grew tired and walked away from the bs and lies
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Peter macdonald wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 5:45 pm
Martin Patfield wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 5:37 pm
lowerbourneshot wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:40 pm

I certainly don't think we'd come back in a hurry . I'd say at that level they'd be a few clubs on better budgets than us .

Look how long Stockport were down there.

York were down for long enough.
These teams go down, regroup, come back and push on.
Most have a plan, a backing, fans onside.


The problem with Aldershot is lack of infrastructure and a clear plan.

There was one in 92. "Get back to the football league". Then what? Absolutely nothing.
Yes Stockport spent a ridiculous 6 years in the National League north, now they’re pushing for the second tier, a splendid recovery
They have the capability of getting 8 to 9 k at home we don't. In the period of league football in 08 to 13 Brentford at home 5032 was our highest gate . The play off v Rotherham drew a pathetic 4500 . Aldershot doesn't have the support to have a lge club anymore .
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Re: Enough is enough

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lowerbourneshot wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:32 pm
Peter macdonald wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 5:45 pm
Martin Patfield wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 5:37 pm


Look how long Stockport were down there.

York were down for long enough.
These teams go down, regroup, come back and push on.
Most have a plan, a backing, fans onside.


The problem with Aldershot is lack of infrastructure and a clear plan.

There was one in 92. "Get back to the football league". Then what? Absolutely nothing.
Yes Stockport spent a ridiculous 6 years in the National League north, now they’re pushing for the second tier, a splendid recovery
They have the capability of getting 8 to 9 k at home we don't. In the period of league football in 08 to 13 Brentford at home 5032 was our highest gate . The play off v Rotherham drew a pathetic 4500 . Aldershot doesn't have the support to have a lge club anymore .
The Rotherham gate was criminal yet 2 years earlier we got 6k v Weymouth when lifting the title
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Peter macdonald wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:41 pm
lowerbourneshot wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:32 pm
Peter macdonald wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 5:45 pm

Yes Stockport spent a ridiculous 6 years in the National League north, now they’re pushing for the second tier, a splendid recovery
They have the capability of getting 8 to 9 k at home we don't. In the period of league football in 08 to 13 Brentford at home 5032 was our highest gate . The play off v Rotherham drew a pathetic 4500 . Aldershot doesn't have the support to have a lge club anymore .
The Rotherham gate was criminal yet 2 years earlier we got 6k v Weymouth when lifting the title
6k for a game that meant nothing
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lowerbourneshot wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:32 pm
Peter macdonald wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 5:45 pm
Martin Patfield wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 5:37 pm


Look how long Stockport were down there.

York were down for long enough.
These teams go down, regroup, come back and push on.
Most have a plan, a backing, fans onside.


The problem with Aldershot is lack of infrastructure and a clear plan.

There was one in 92. "Get back to the football league". Then what? Absolutely nothing.
Yes Stockport spent a ridiculous 6 years in the National League north, now they’re pushing for the second tier, a splendid recovery
They have the capability of getting 8 to 9 k at home we don't. In the period of league football in 08 to 13 Brentford at home 5032 was our highest gate . The play off v Rotherham drew a pathetic 4500 . Aldershot doesn't have the support to have a lge club anymore .
Stockport have grown their gates from 2,500 to 9,500(inc Away Fans) Aldershot could easily grow to 6,000 if marketed right and had all potential revenue assets being driven hard.

The 6k was our potential that has gone away.
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lowerbourneshot wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:43 pm
Peter macdonald wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:41 pm
lowerbourneshot wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:32 pm

They have the capability of getting 8 to 9 k at home we don't. In the period of league football in 08 to 13 Brentford at home 5032 was our highest gate . The play off v Rotherham drew a pathetic 4500 . Aldershot doesn't have the support to have a lge club anymore .
The Rotherham gate was criminal yet 2 years earlier we got 6k v Weymouth when lifting the title
6k for a game that meant nothing
Following season first home game v Bournemouth in the football league 1500 less than the Weymouth game which was incredibly bizarre
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brian bloomfield wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:46 pm
lowerbourneshot wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:32 pm
Peter macdonald wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 5:45 pm

Yes Stockport spent a ridiculous 6 years in the National League north, now they’re pushing for the second tier, a splendid recovery
They have the capability of getting 8 to 9 k at home we don't. In the period of league football in 08 to 13 Brentford at home 5032 was our highest gate . The play off v Rotherham drew a pathetic 4500 . Aldershot doesn't have the support to have a lge club anymore .
Stockport have grown their gates from 2,500 to 9,500(inc Away Fans) Aldershot could easily grow to 6,000 if marketed right and had all potential revenue assets being driven hard.

The 6k was our potential that has gone away.
No we wouldn't we have never regularly had 6000 in the 49 years I've been going ,absolute delusion
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Peter macdonald wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:48 pm
lowerbourneshot wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:43 pm
Peter macdonald wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:41 pm

The Rotherham gate was criminal yet 2 years earlier we got 6k v Weymouth when lifting the title
6k for a game that meant nothing
Following season first home game v Bournemouth in the football league 1500 less than the Weymouth game which was incredibly bizarre
All ticket no tickets allowed to be bought on the day resulting in a 4511 gate ? I think
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lowerbourneshot wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:49 pm
Peter macdonald wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:48 pm
lowerbourneshot wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:43 pm

6k for a game that meant nothing
Following season first home game v Bournemouth in the football league 1500 less than the Weymouth game which was incredibly bizarre
All ticket no tickets allowed to be bought on the day resulting in a 4511 gate ? I think
Yes which for me was the beginning of all this pathetic unnecessary all ticket nonsense, otherwise we probably would have got 6k again that afternoon
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lowerbourneshot wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:48 pm
brian bloomfield wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:46 pm
lowerbourneshot wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:32 pm

They have the capability of getting 8 to 9 k at home we don't. In the period of league football in 08 to 13 Brentford at home 5032 was our highest gate . The play off v Rotherham drew a pathetic 4500 . Aldershot doesn't have the support to have a lge club anymore .
Stockport have grown their gates from 2,500 to 9,500(inc Away Fans) Aldershot could easily grow to 6,000 if marketed right and had all potential revenue assets being driven hard.

The 6k was our potential that has gone away.
No we wouldn't we have never regularly had 6000 in the 49 years I've been going ,absolute delusion
We've never been able to grow to any sizeable fan base because we've never been able to kick on with 3 or 4 good seasons in the EFL with a ground that would entice people to want to come week in week out. LBS 6k would probably be 5k home 1k away fans, that is achievable with the right people in charge in the EFL, delusional or not. We just accept crap and and put up with it.
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brian bloomfield wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:56 pm
lowerbourneshot wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:48 pm
brian bloomfield wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:46 pm

Stockport have grown their gates from 2,500 to 9,500(inc Away Fans) Aldershot could easily grow to 6,000 if marketed right and had all potential revenue assets being driven hard.

The 6k was our potential that has gone away.
No we wouldn't we have never regularly had 6000 in the 49 years I've been going ,absolute delusion
We've never been able to grow to any sizeable fan base because we've never been able to kick on with 3 or 4 good seasons in the EFL with a ground that would entice people to want to come week in week out. LBS 6k would probably be 5k home 1k away fans, that is achievable with the right people in charge in the EFL, delusional or not. We just accept crap and and put up with it.
You weren't around in the late 70s early 80s then ? Cup runs missing out on promotions that weren't built on trading blows with the likes of Sheff united ,Huddy, Pompey ,Wimbledon, Bradford who all went on to win FA Cups and play Premier lge football while we did nothing . A club run with no ambition but to survive
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lowerbourneshot wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 7:02 pm
brian bloomfield wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:56 pm
lowerbourneshot wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:48 pm
No we wouldn't we have never regularly had 6000 in the 49 years I've been going ,absolute delusion
We've never been able to grow to any sizeable fan base because we've never been able to kick on with 3 or 4 good seasons in the EFL with a ground that would entice people to want to come week in week out. LBS 6k would probably be 5k home 1k away fans, that is achievable with the right people in charge in the EFL, delusional or not. We just accept crap and and put up with it.
You weren't around in the late 70s early 80s then ? Cup runs missing out on promotions that weren't built on trading blows with the likes of Sheff united ,Huddy, Pompey ,Wimbledon, Bradford who all went on to win FA Cups and play Premier lge football while we did nothing . A club run with no ambition but to survive
Been watching since 76. Next year my 50th anniversary, will celebrate having a pint in the new ground :D
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brian bloomfield wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 7:05 pm
lowerbourneshot wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 7:02 pm
brian bloomfield wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:56 pm

We've never been able to grow to any sizeable fan base because we've never been able to kick on with 3 or 4 good seasons in the EFL with a ground that would entice people to want to come week in week out. LBS 6k would probably be 5k home 1k away fans, that is achievable with the right people in charge in the EFL, delusional or not. We just accept crap and and put up with it.
You weren't around in the late 70s early 80s then ? Cup runs missing out on promotions that weren't built on trading blows with the likes of Sheff united ,Huddy, Pompey ,Wimbledon, Bradford who all went on to win FA Cups and play Premier lge football while we did nothing . A club run with no ambition but to survive
Been watching since 76. Next year my 50th anniversary, will celebrate having a pint in the new ground :D
I'll join in the Tilly Shilling in Farnborough then
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We're not big enough for the Football League. Rarely get 6000 and it would take new owners with a vision to grow the club. We would struggle to get out of NLS.
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Josh wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 7:41 pm We're not big enough for the Football League. Rarely get 6000 and it would take new owners with a vision to grow the club. We would struggle to get out of NLS.
You say that but you know what Stevenage creepy the gate fleetwood and Bromley average Josh?

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