Eastleigh 2-0 Aldershot Town - Saturday 15th February 2025 (Match Day Thread)

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Martin Patfield
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brian bloomfield wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 10:40 am Whilst we're on here discussing all things Aldershot I know Shahid, Deane and John will be having long conversations on this wonderful Sunday on how they can help the manager and what they need to do to prevent relegation.
One thing I do know is they'll be just as worried, most probably a lot more than us about the current position because they'll have to pick up the pieces.
For the clubs sake I hope they find a way to help the manager kick on from this difficult position.
Let's hope so.

I saw the attached online the other day from someone local in Aldershot.

I'm not sure who "the shots hierarchy" is actually referring to as it could be aimed at any number of people but something tells me otherwise that any care is being given right now.
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I don't think teams have defenses to cope with it either.. ie forest green.. something to ponder
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Josh Barrett is a player capable of sublime pieces of skill.

I think he is being used wrongly by TW.

We should start matches with two runners/workers up top (Jack and One other , maybe Dolaghan).

Then use Josh in the last twenty minutes against (hopefully) tired defenders
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brian bloomfield wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 10:40 am Whilst we're on here discussing all things Aldershot I know Shahid, Deane and John will be having long conversations on this wonderful Sunday on how they can help the manager and what they need to do to prevent relegation.
One thing I do know is they'll be just as worried, most probably a lot more than us about the current position because they'll have to pick up the pieces.
For the clubs sake I hope they find a way to help the manager kick on from this difficult position.
I don't doubt this Brian, but I honestly believe we're devoid of fresh ideas with this stale Board. The incumbents have, one way or another, dug us a deep hole and haven't got a ladder to get us out. Fresh blood is the only answer.
'Players lose you games, not tactics. There's so much crap talked about tactics by people who barely know how to win at dominoes. ' Brian Clough
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Re: Eastleigh 2-0 Aldershot Town - Saturday 15th February 2025 (Match Day Thread)

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Mick Earls Fan Club wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 11:04 am Josh Barrett is a player capable of sublime pieces of skill.

I think he is being used wrongly by TW.

We should start matches with two runners/workers up top (Jack and One other , maybe Dolaghan).

Then use Josh in the last twenty minutes against (hopefully) tired defenders
Nail, head.
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redblueuptoyou wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 9:27 am
chimpster99 wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 9:23 am Given that we have Deane hoovering up our cash now that the stadium project is floundering, the NL Cup is vital to Tommy in generating some kind of additional funds to work with. It's fielding first-teamers in the Hampshire Cup that baffles me!!!
Hoovering up our cash or claiming back what is his?
Both are true, I don't doubt he's entitled to it. A deal was cut a few years ago and Shahid was unable to deliver his side of it, now we're literally paying the price. :(
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brian bloomfield wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 11:08 am
Mick Earls Fan Club wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 11:04 am Josh Barrett is a player capable of sublime pieces of skill.

I think he is being used wrongly by TW.

We should start matches with two runners/workers up top (Jack and One other , maybe Dolaghan).

Then use Josh in the last twenty minutes against (hopefully) tired defenders
Nail, head.
But isn't there a logical flaw in this oft-seen "bring him on when they're tiring" idea? We're not the only side who can make substitutions. The opposition are allowed to bring on fresh legs too to defend against ploys like this.
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brian bloomfield wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 10:40 am Whilst we're on here discussing all things Aldershot I know Shahid, Deane and John will be having long conversations on this wonderful Sunday on how they can help the manager and what they need to do to prevent relegation.
One thing I do know is they'll be just as worried, most probably a lot more than us about the current position because they'll have to pick up the pieces.
For the clubs sake I hope they find a way to help the manager kick on from this difficult position.
Azeem is the biggest reason we are in this mess with the running up of the huge debt. Already had 2 bottom 4 finishes under him and every manager has struggled under him. If you keep flirting with relegation, one day the trap door will open.

However TW is far from blameless. Constant selection of his son, Frost out of position, inexplicable selection of JVS, the refusal to play Stuttle.

It's bleak
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Josh wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 11:24 am
brian bloomfield wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 10:40 am Whilst we're on here discussing all things Aldershot I know Shahid, Deane and John will be having long conversations on this wonderful Sunday on how they can help the manager and what they need to do to prevent relegation.
One thing I do know is they'll be just as worried, most probably a lot more than us about the current position because they'll have to pick up the pieces.
For the clubs sake I hope they find a way to help the manager kick on from this difficult position.
Azeem is the biggest reason we are in this mess with the running up of the huge debt. Already had 2 bottom 4 finishes under him and every manager has struggled under him. If you keep flirting with relegation, one day the trap door will open.

However TW is far from blameless. Constant selection of his son, Frost out of position, inexplicable selection of JVS, the refusal to play Stuttle.

It's bleak
It’s insane to me that there are people that will still defend Azeem on the basis that there is apparently no one else out there in the entire world that will put money into our club.

Even if that was the case, it does NOT excuse the appalling way he is running our club.
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Josh wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 11:24 am
brian bloomfield wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 10:40 am Whilst we're on here discussing all things Aldershot I know Shahid, Deane and John will be having long conversations on this wonderful Sunday on how they can help the manager and what they need to do to prevent relegation.
One thing I do know is they'll be just as worried, most probably a lot more than us about the current position because they'll have to pick up the pieces.
For the clubs sake I hope they find a way to help the manager kick on from this difficult position.
Azeem is the biggest reason we are in this mess with the running up of the huge debt. Already had 2 bottom 4 finishes under him and every manager has struggled under him. If you keep flirting with relegation, one day the trap door will open.

However TW is far from blameless. Constant selection of his son, Frost out of position, inexplicable selection of JVS, the refusal to play Stuttle.

It's bleak
You can still care, even if you're supposedly not up to the job! Maybe the budget has been the biggest constraint, the club is at the start of getting the ground developed and this no doubt in my opinion, is compounding the issue.
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brian bloomfield wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 11:31 am
Josh wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 11:24 am
brian bloomfield wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 10:40 am Whilst we're on here discussing all things Aldershot I know Shahid, Deane and John will be having long conversations on this wonderful Sunday on how they can help the manager and what they need to do to prevent relegation.
One thing I do know is they'll be just as worried, most probably a lot more than us about the current position because they'll have to pick up the pieces.
For the clubs sake I hope they find a way to help the manager kick on from this difficult position.
Azeem is the biggest reason we are in this mess with the running up of the huge debt. Already had 2 bottom 4 finishes under him and every manager has struggled under him. If you keep flirting with relegation, one day the trap door will open.

However TW is far from blameless. Constant selection of his son, Frost out of position, inexplicable selection of JVS, the refusal to play Stuttle.

It's bleak
You can still care, even if you're supposedly not up to the job! Maybe the budget has been the biggest constraint, the club is at the start of getting the ground developed and this no doubt in my opinion, is compounding the issue.
“ at the start of getting the ground redeveloped’’ 😳 where !?

Sorry Brian but I haven’t seen any blokes in donkey jackets walking around the ground yet 😏😂😂
:D In my humble opinion..Just saying
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Adzy wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 11:31 am It’s insane to me that there are people that will still defend Azeem on the basis that there is apparently no one else out there in the entire world that will put money into our club.

Even if that was the case, it does NOT excuse the appalling way he is running our club.
I think this ought to be put in context of what other people not on the board have done.
If I am correct (forgive me if I am wrong) but Azheem's financial contribution has been 350k in the form of shares purchased? And he has been Chairman for what 12 years?
So under 30k pa to be chairman.
Now, I am not saying for one minute that this is not a considerable lump sum, but it is nothing compared with many chairman in this league and even below.
I would also be curious to see how much p.a. people like the owners of EBB and Hi Speed have put in.
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Josh wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:45 am It would be nice if the chairman came out and explained the current situation. Are we where we are meant to be? How does our budget compare to other clubs? If we have ambitions to get in the Football League why are we in a relegation battle?
It's not really a question of how much is in the playing budget, it's how its spent. If you've got a £2m budget and use £1.75m on three quality players ,your left trying to fill all the other places with £250k (and they wont be quality!) I think our problem is the cost of maintaininmg a decrepit ground that we dont own with precious few non match day streams. Everything in the ATFC set up is simply cost. Maybe the BOD need to look for a new build site/cost it out/work out the new builds non match day revenues and present that alone("oven ready" as BJ said....although he was lying!!) to excite a new investor/owner to take on. The potential is there at ATFC-the FL history/support in numbers when on field is going well-even a fair 4 figure gate when things aren't. That's all waste in the current set up/as things are.
We really need to know about this alleged redevelopment/what plans there are for moving upwards.
Its no easy task-a few clubs with arguably better set ups than ours are or have struggled at this level and below.
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brian bloomfield wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 10:40 am Whilst we're on here discussing all things Aldershot I know Shahid, Deane and John will be having long conversations on this wonderful Sunday on how they can help the manager and what they need to do to prevent relegation.
One thing I do know is they'll be just as worried, most probably a lot more than us about the current position because they'll have to pick up the pieces.
For the clubs sake I hope they find a way to help the manager kick on from this difficult position.
The manager is the issue.

How can you be where we are and insist you are not going to change anything in the way we play?
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So what has happened to the money from the sale of our 2 best players....and FA cup run?

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