Aldershot Town 2-0 AFC Fylde - Tuesday 1st April 2025 (Match Night Thread)

[Localshot]

Surely those provisos are not good fortune but good practice.

[Old Bob]

Surely those provisos are not good fortune but good practice.

Really? So it's good practice to encourage the opposition to miss all their gilt-edged chances? That's a pretty handy knack for any budding football manager to acquire.

[lowerbourneshot]

OB can you not just accept that the manager made the right decisions, thank goodness.I went home happy, so should you.

COYGS

We were clinical by taking 2 out of 3 chances and Dewhurst was superb in goal

We also played quite well after the first 10-15 minutes of each half!

Now I thought Fylde had the better of the first 15 minutes. Just shows we view it different. Tommy gambled last night and got lucky ,another night we could have been 3 down by half time .

[Localshot]

Surely those provisos are not good fortune but good practice.

Really? So it's good practice to encourage the opposition to miss all their gilt-edged chances? That's a pretty handy knack for any budding football manager to acquire.

Of course it is. All players do their very best to put off opponents in any 'legal' way they can.

[Old Bob]

Surely those provisos are not good fortune but good practice.

Really? So it's good practice to encourage the opposition to miss all their gilt-edged chances? That's a pretty handy knack for any budding football manager to acquire.

Of course it is. All players do their very best to put off opponents in any 'legal' way they can.

Except that's not what we are talking about. We are talking about opposition players missing gilt-edged chances.

[Localshot]

Yes it is. They missed the gilt edged chances because of our actions in making them uncertain of their own actions. Whether that be positioning of our players, a verbal off putting comment or any other reason.

[Weybourne Shot]

Fylde are down near the bottom for a reason. They weren't good enough to take their chances when they came, simple as that.

[Old Bob]

Yes it is. They missed the gilt edged chances because of our actions in making them uncertain of their own actions. Whether that be positioning of our players, a verbal off putting comment or any other reason.

Yeah, right.

[Old Bob]

Fylde are down near the bottom for a reason. They weren't good enough to take their chances when they came, simple as that.

There's some truth in that, but it's not the whole story. Luck/fortune plays a part too, which is pretty much my entire point. We got lucky, they didn't, but it could have been different.

So not really as simple as that.

[multishot]

Fylde are down near the bottom for a reason. They weren't good enough to take their chances when they came, simple as that.

There's some truth in that, but it's not the whole story. Luck/fortune plays a part too, which is pretty much my entire point. We got lucky, they didn't, but it could have been different.

So not really as simple as that.

Lucky we stayed in the game dewhurst saved a few was mostly us second half

[Silasgoldeen]

I'm not daft enough to bring up expected goals on this forum but these are Fylde's shots (very low expected g... no, I said I wouldn't). The two in the box came after the 85th minute, which doesn't diminish them, but at that point we had our 'best' players on anyway. The big circle was blocked. Most of these "gilt edged" chances are Fylde pinging the ball at Dewhurst from beyond the edge of the box. We'd have taken that, he's rarely beaten from outside the area.

Bob, your logic applies to any game. Any of our wins this season had moments where, had they gone differently, we wouldn't have won. That's entirely the nature of football. This recent winning run has been a winning run because we've edged the key moments. The run of draws earlier in the season came because we didn't. Tommy played the percentages and it worked out. As you say, it might not have.

[Old Bob]

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I'm not daft enough to bring up expected goals on this forum but these are Fylde's shots (very low expected g... no, I said I wouldn't). The two in the box came after the 85th minute, which doesn't diminish them, but at that point we had our 'best' players on anyway. The big circle was blocked. Most of these "gilt edged" chances are Fylde pinging the ball at Dewhurst from beyond the edge of the box. We'd have taken that, he's rarely beaten from outside the area.

Bob, your logic applies to any game. Any of our wins this season had moments where, had they gone differently, we wouldn't have won. That's entirely the nature of football. This recent winning run has been a winning run because we've edged the key moments. The run of draws earlier in the season came because we didn't. Tommy played the percentages and it worked out. As you say, it might not have.

Have you got the corner count, Silas? I recall that Fylde had a host of half-chances from a succession of corners too.
I think my logic is OK. I'm not saying we would have lost if things had gone differently. I am saying that the result turns on a combination of relative playing strengths/performances and fortune/misfortune in key moments. Because of the part that fortune plays, you need to give yourself the best chance of winning by selecting your best team.

[latimeralder]

Seems to me Tommy got it pretty much right

Managed to get 3 points on Tuesday AND give the squad some decent real gametime preparation for Saturday.

Also shook off the defeat at Rochdale.

That our opponents weren't much shakes may well have influenced his judgement.

That's why we pay him to pick the team as he sees it.

And with a recent record of P10 W7 D2 L1 he's doing a good job of it for me.

[Cph.shots]

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I'm not daft enough to bring up expected goals on this forum but these are Fylde's shots (very low expected g... no, I said I wouldn't). The two in the box came after the 85th minute, which doesn't diminish them, but at that point we had our 'best' players on anyway. The big circle was blocked. Most of these "gilt edged" chances are Fylde pinging the ball at Dewhurst from beyond the edge of the box. We'd have taken that, he's rarely beaten from outside the area.

Bob, your logic applies to any game. Any of our wins this season had moments where, had they gone differently, we wouldn't have won. That's entirely the nature of football. This recent winning run has been a winning run because we've edged the key moments. The run of draws earlier in the season came because we didn't. Tommy played the percentages and it worked out. As you say, it might not have.

Have you got the corner count, Silas? I recall that Fylde had a host of half-chances from a succession of corners too.
I think my logic is OK. I'm not saying we would have lost if things had gone differently. I am saying that the result turns on a combination of relative playing strengths/performances and fortune/misfortune in key moments. Because of the part that fortune plays, you need to give yourself the best chance of winning by selecting your best team.

.....but most of our "best" players did figure at some point and those that aren't regular starters, didn't disappoint, imho.
Another crucial point is, that Tommy didn't tamper with the defense or rest Dewhurst, that also could have give a different outcome.
I think Tommy has made some questionable decisions during the season but think he played his hand here perfectly. so well done to management and players.

[Silasgoldeen]

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I'm not daft enough to bring up expected goals on this forum but these are Fylde's shots (very low expected g... no, I said I wouldn't). The two in the box came after the 85th minute, which doesn't diminish them, but at that point we had our 'best' players on anyway. The big circle was blocked. Most of these "gilt edged" chances are Fylde pinging the ball at Dewhurst from beyond the edge of the box. We'd have taken that, he's rarely beaten from outside the area.

Bob, your logic applies to any game. Any of our wins this season had moments where, had they gone differently, we wouldn't have won. That's entirely the nature of football. This recent winning run has been a winning run because we've edged the key moments. The run of draws earlier in the season came because we didn't. Tommy played the percentages and it worked out. As you say, it might not have.

Have you got the corner count, Silas? I recall that Fylde had a host of half-chances from a succession of corners too.
I think my logic is OK. I'm not saying we would have lost if things had gone differently. I am saying that the result turns on a combination of relative playing strengths/performances and fortune/misfortune in key moments. Because of the part that fortune plays, you need to give yourself the best chance of winning by selecting your best team.

here you go! We're on the left.