Against Modern Football

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Fuggletim wrote: Fri May 09, 2025 6:18 pm
Turnkey wrote: Fri May 09, 2025 4:26 pm
lowerbourneshot wrote: Fri May 09, 2025 3:28 pm Sunderland did it in 1998 and nobody cared
We’ve done it three times in our existence that I can remember too..
I think in the 1960s we had a heraldic style crest, which morphed into a cannon and then to the 1926 football logo. Similarly, our Phoenix has has a few modifications over the year, particularly with the colourisation/background.

Don’t think we can get too outraged.
By coincidence, I have managed to unearth my oldest Shots scarf, which incorporates the ORIGINAL (1927-72) Aldershot FC crest - with the 'Pugna Pro Patria' moto , some sort of severed animal's head, a couple of lions each side, and a pair of scissors in the bottom corner.

It may be making an appearance on Sunday...
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It's a shame the old days have gone in many way's , I tremember when you could have a look on a Saturday morning and decide which game in London you fancied going to and none would break the bank. These days the cost is ridiculous even if you could get a ticket, but its just the way things are with the middle class/corporates and tourists taking most tickets. As for membership scheme's I don't see a problem, I pay £25 at Millwall and it cuts out a lot of hassle on matchday as ticket loaded on your card and you can't buy away tickets without one. The other benefit is as tickets are done on a points system for big games it gives regulars priority.
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Times change and have for the better. I started watching Aldershot in 1973 or 74, my dad brought me and my brother as Aldershot was the local football team. Then late 70 s and getting enough money i followed my club which is a west London club though still watching Aldershot every now and then.
Now my football club no longer wants me it wants the tourists and those from out of town the community feel has gone. The club i loved has gone though its still my club and ihas had more success than the times i knew of standing waiting to use the toilets for half an hour and people squashing you and pushing and swaying on the terraces. Then a police force that used to bash you for no reason ,just because they could. The old days were great though the modern football is the best at the highest level than it has ever been though to get a ticket now is impossible.
Me now, i love watching Aldershot, its in a time warp and has not changed and reminds me of my youth. I guess what i am saying is you must change otherwise you get left behind.
Come on Aldershot on Sunday. Lets win . I would love to see my local club grow and grow. Who knows it may happen, though except the change.
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Birdman wrote: Fri May 09, 2025 6:48 pm
Silasgoldeen wrote: Fri May 09, 2025 6:33 pm
Martin Patfield wrote: Fri May 09, 2025 3:56 pm Think people need to start moving with the times.


That includes ATFC going digital and taking all your contact details and bank details online and making you sign up for online accounts.

Guess what.... So they can market ATFC to you.

- Give you a 15% gift voucher on your birthday (or whatever date you chose to select on the system)

- See you haven't been to a match for a while and try to persuade you to return!

- Christmas voucher
Speaking of which, I wonder if the club gets contact details for everyone who purchased a cup final ticket. Assuming not. But what a missed opportunity that is, 19,000 people going to watch your team and you don't have their data.
Surely that should read ‘and you don’t have access to their data’.
Think that would be against GDPR unless Wembley had pre-agreed to share data (would be in the small print and we’d all have to give consent).
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redblueuptoyou wrote: Fri May 09, 2025 8:23 pm
Birdman wrote: Fri May 09, 2025 6:48 pm
Silasgoldeen wrote: Fri May 09, 2025 6:33 pm

Speaking of which, I wonder if the club gets contact details for everyone who purchased a cup final ticket. Assuming not. But what a missed opportunity that is, 19,000 people going to watch your team and you don't have their data.
Surely that should read ‘and you don’t have access to their data’.
Think that would be against GDPR unless Wembley had pre-agreed to share data (would be in the small print and we’d all have to give consent).
Yes that's what I mean. Shame because that list would be marketing gold.
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I'm not sure the cost of football has gone up as much as some think, once inflation is taken into account. However, the PL has definitely limited ticket access which in turns has fuelled TV demand. Non league offers a product that's reminiscent of times past, and a (mostly) more honest brand of football.
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Rba wrote: Fri May 09, 2025 7:31 pm Times change and have for the better. I started watching Aldershot in 1973 or 74, my dad brought me and my brother as Aldershot was the local football team. Then late 70 s and getting enough money i followed my club which is a west London club though still watching Aldershot every now and then.
Now my football club no longer wants me it wants the tourists and those from out of town the community feel has gone. The club i loved has gone though its still my club and ihas had more success than the times i knew of standing waiting to use the toilets for half an hour and people squashing you and pushing and swaying on the terraces. Then a police force that used to bash you for no reason ,just because they could. The old days were great though the modern football is the best at the highest level than it has ever been though to get a ticket now is impossible.
Me now, i love watching Aldershot, its in a time warp and has not changed and reminds me of my youth. I guess what i am saying is you must change otherwise you get left behind.
Come on Aldershot on Sunday. Lets win . I would love to see my local club grow and grow. Who knows it may happen, though except the change.
This post reminded me of an old series on tv that I have never seen before and I am thoroughly enjoying watching now. In 1973 I was a 16 year old, and watching Life on Mars for the first time evokes so many memories of that time. Just finished the first series, and about to enjoy the second.
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chimpster99 wrote: Fri May 09, 2025 11:54 pm I'm not sure the cost of football has gone up as much as some think, once inflation is taken into account.
It depends on clubs, although the majority have gone up far above the rise of inflation. Brentford have very reasonable ticket prices and charge just £45 for adults to all games, however you need to purchase a £45 membership first. Just across West London at Craven Cottage the difference is stark. Fulham charge KIDS £80 for the bigger matches and the cheapest adult tickets for the visit of top clubs is £160.

The only good thing about Premier League ticket prices is away tickets are capped at £30.
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Aldershot wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 3:18 am
chimpster99 wrote: Fri May 09, 2025 11:54 pm I'm not sure the cost of football has gone up as much as some think, once inflation is taken into account.
It depends on clubs, although the majority have gone up far above the rise of inflation. Brentford have very reasonable ticket prices and charge just £45 for adults to all games, however you need to purchase a £45 membership first. Just across West London at Craven Cottage the difference is stark. Fulham charge KIDS £80 for the bigger matches and the cheapest adult tickets for the visit of top clubs is £160.

The only good thing about Premier League ticket prices is away tickets are capped at £30.
About time they capped all tickets at £30
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supershots wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 8:08 am
Aldershot wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 3:18 am
chimpster99 wrote: Fri May 09, 2025 11:54 pm I'm not sure the cost of football has gone up as much as some think, once inflation is taken into account.
The only good thing about Premier League ticket prices is away tickets are capped at £30.
About time they capped all tickets at £30
I agree!
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supershots wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 8:08 am
Aldershot wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 3:18 am
chimpster99 wrote: Fri May 09, 2025 11:54 pm I'm not sure the cost of football has gone up as much as some think, once inflation is taken into account.
It depends on clubs, although the majority have gone up far above the rise of inflation. Brentford have very reasonable ticket prices and charge just £45 for adults to all games, however you need to purchase a £45 membership first. Just across West London at Craven Cottage the difference is stark. Fulham charge KIDS £80 for the bigger matches and the cheapest adult tickets for the visit of top clubs is £160.

The only good thing about Premier League ticket prices is away tickets are capped at £30.
About time they capped all tickets at £30
And National League at £15. North and South at £12 for away supporters. This would have I believe a positive effect in more away supporters using the catering facilities if they feel the away club is good value for money.
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Aldershot wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 3:18 am Just across West London at Craven Cottage the difference is stark. Fulham charge KIDS £80 for the bigger matches and the cheapest adult tickets for the visit of top clubs is £160.
Poor research. £160 is the most expensive tickets in the new Riverside Stand, which they always seem to struggle to sale, but tickets potentially can be bought in other parts of the ground for £67, and in the family zone Adults are charged £35 and kids £24, they probably sell out to members quickly though.
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Wanderer wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 10:19 am
Aldershot wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 3:18 am Just across West London at Craven Cottage the difference is stark. Fulham charge KIDS £80 for the bigger matches and the cheapest adult tickets for the visit of top clubs is £160.
Poor research. £160 is the most expensive tickets in the new Riverside Stand, which they always seem to struggle to sale, but tickets potentially can be bought in other parts of the ground for £67, and in the family zone Adults are charged £35 and kids £24, they probably sell out to members quickly though.
You beat me to it, Wand. Aldershot was making that up.
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Martin Patfield wrote: Fri May 09, 2025 3:56 pm Think people need to start moving with the times.


That includes ATFC going digital and taking all your contact details and bank details online and making you sign up for online accounts.

Guess what.... So they can market ATFC to you.

- Give you a 15% gift voucher on your birthday (or whatever date you chose to select on the system)

- See you haven't been to a match for a while and try to persuade you to return!

- Christmas voucher
That would be a sensible idea.

For example
£40 membership price, details handed over. In return
- Match day tickets £20
- 10% discount in club shop
- 15% birthday voucher
- Christmas voucher

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