Aldershot Town 2-1 Fulham U21s - Tuesday 21st January 2025 (Match Night Thread)

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Old Bob wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:50 pm When Robert Burns says "My love is like a red, red rose", he's sure as hell not going to spray her with blackfly killer :lol:
How do you know that? It was a long time ago, and he was Scottish.
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Red hot shot wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:09 pm I think this cup has been a great addition. Pleased we've progressed and hopefully we can go all the way. Does anyone know where the final is?
Assuming your post isn't a wind-up, I'm pleased you are enjoying this cup, whatever it's called (National League Cup, is it?) But pardon me if I don't join you in singing its praises.

I imagine the final will be held at the ground of one of the finalists. Who knows? The Premier League website isn't even sure what day it is ... it gives two dates (https://www.premierleague.com/news/4121350). It seems fitting that one of these is 1 April.
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beechcroft wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:55 pm
Old Bob wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:50 pm
Localshot wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:07 pm

Come off it Bob! A training session is totally different to a game. I know you don't like the competition but you cannot call it something it clearly is not. Whether there is money involved as you claim is irrelevant to the discussion.
I understand your point of view, Localshot, but I think you are far too accepting of this sham as equivalent to a real football match. It isn't. It's a charade. And what concerns me as much as anything is that 300 odd people were suckered into this mistake. It's not a meaningful, competitive football match, but a cynical attempt to get people to accept the PL's long-term agenda to feather their nests with a European Superleague and f**k domestic football.

When I say it's a training session, that's metaphorical. Of course it's not an actual training session. When Robert Burns says "My love is like a red, red rose", he's sure as hell not going to spray her with blackfly killer :lol:
300 plus people who don't share your view,must be very frustrating !
Not at all. They are entitled to spend their time and money however they choose. Good luck to them.

I think they've been suckered, but that's up to them. I also think people who watch East Enders have been suckered. We're all different people.
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Old Bob wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 11:08 pm
beechcroft wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:55 pm
Old Bob wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:50 pm

I understand your point of view, Localshot, but I think you are far too accepting of this sham as equivalent to a real football match. It isn't. It's a charade. And what concerns me as much as anything is that 300 odd people were suckered into this mistake. It's not a meaningful, competitive football match, but a cynical attempt to get people to accept the PL's long-term agenda to feather their nests with a European Superleague and f**k domestic football.

When I say it's a training session, that's metaphorical. Of course it's not an actual training session. When Robert Burns says "My love is like a red, red rose", he's sure as hell not going to spray her with blackfly killer :lol:
300 plus people who don't share your view,must be very frustrating !
Not at all. They are entitled to spend their time and money however they choose. Good luck to them.
Exactly, so not suckered into anything
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beechcroft wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 11:10 pm
Old Bob wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 11:08 pm
beechcroft wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:55 pm

300 plus people who don't share your view,must be very frustrating !
Not at all. They are entitled to spend their time and money however they choose. Good luck to them.
Exactly, so not suckered into anything
Ah, your reply crossed with my edit, Beechcroft! So yes, I think they've been suckered but that's me. That's the way I see things.
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It's not the competition per-se that I or other people have a problem with, it's the shoe-horning of the U23 sides into competitive football.

I've not been to any of the matches as I have no interest in watching us play academy sides

If we draw a fellow NL side in the next round I will probably consider going.
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Localshot wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:07 pm
Old Bob wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:00 pm
Localshot wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 8:49 pm It is an official game with officials and an end product which has a meaning and therefore it is definitely NOT a training session in any sense of the words.
It's a training session in the sense that no one cares about the end product. OK, there's money attached, but that's basically bribe money, put up by the PL to buy NL participation and get their Frankenstein Cup over the line.

I know a meaningless friendly cum training session when I see one.
Come off it Bob! A training session is totally different to a game. I know you don't like the competition but you cannot call it something it clearly is not. Whether there is money involved as you claim is irrelevant to the discussion.
Bob does spout a lot BS on here

Not the most intelligent on here.
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Red hot shot wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:09 pm I think this cup has been a great addition. Pleased we've progressed and hopefully we can go all the way. Does anyone know where the final is?
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Well we all know where the power in the game lies so replays we're always going to go and they aren't coming back.

It's very patronising to tell people they're being suckered into watching a football match. If you'd been you'd notice a different tempo, a quicker game in some ways, more passing football, but still lots of hard running and effort. You'd have seen one of the best midfield performances of the season from Tetek. You'd have seen Luke Jenkins on his way back to fitness, and a solid half an hour of work from Stuttle to reassure us rhat our eyes haven't been deceiving us.

Aldershot played a game last night. You might not like it but some of us chose to spend our evenings watching. We were rewarded. Don't tell us we were suckered into it.
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No one is made to go to these games so no one is suckered into going what stupid post again. People choose how to spend their evenings and money.
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Not a fan of this comp but given we had to play the game, good confidence-boosting win. Glad Tetek was back on form after looking below par in some recent games.

Have been staying away from this comp due the whole replay farce and the nonsense we've been fed that it isn't connected to replays. Will be going to the Hampshire cup game next week instead. However an interesting conundrum if we do get to the semis/final, as while I can't get behind the comp, as a younger Shots fan who wasn't really involved in 2008, I've never really seen us win anything.

For any boycott of this comp to be effective, NL fans also need to stop supporting the Premier league. That means no more sky sports and no more fantasy Premier league for example.

Is the prize money all that it's made out to be? 34k for four games doesn't sound like loads when you consider we'd still have costs for running the game (albeit reduced), have to pay the players for these games and I suspect this comp is part of the reason for the large squad we've got this year. For comparison selling 1000 adult tickets for one home game would be £21k gross revenue.


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MidlandsShot wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 7:02 am Not a fan of this comp but given we had to play the game, good confidence-boosting win. Glad Tetek was back on form after looking below par in some recent games.

Have been staying away from this comp due the whole replay farce and the nonsense we've been fed that it isn't connected to replays. Will be going to the Hampshire cup game next week instead. However an interesting conundrum if we do get to the semis/final, as while I can't get behind the comp, as a younger Shots fan who wasn't really involved in 2008, I've never really seen us win anything.

For any boycott of this comp to be effective, NL fans also need to stop supporting the Premier league. That means no more sky sports and no more fantasy Premier league for example.

Is the prize money all that it's made out to be? 34k for four games doesn't sound like loads when you consider we'd still have costs for running the game (albeit reduced), have to pay the players for these games and I suspect this comp is part of the reason for the large squad we've got this year. For comparison selling 1000 adult tickets for one home game would be £21k gross revenue.
the boycott won't be effective at all. What leverage do we think we have here? It's happening either way.
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Silasgoldeen wrote:
MidlandsShot wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 7:02 am Not a fan of this comp but given we had to play the game, good confidence-boosting win. Glad Tetek was back on form after looking below par in some recent games.

Have been staying away from this comp due the whole replay farce and the nonsense we've been fed that it isn't connected to replays. Will be going to the Hampshire cup game next week instead. However an interesting conundrum if we do get to the semis/final, as while I can't get behind the comp, as a younger Shots fan who wasn't really involved in 2008, I've never really seen us win anything.

For any boycott of this comp to be effective, NL fans also need to stop supporting the Premier league. That means no more sky sports and no more fantasy Premier league for example.

Is the prize money all that it's made out to be? 34k for four games doesn't sound like loads when you consider we'd still have costs for running the game (albeit reduced), have to pay the players for these games and I suspect this comp is part of the reason for the large squad we've got this year. For comparison selling 1000 adult tickets for one home game would be £21k gross revenue.
the boycott won't be effective at all. What leverage do we think we have here? It's happening either way.
True, I guess I meant it more from a point if people are not engaging with this out of principle, they probably shouldn't be supporting the premier league in other forms either


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Yes for sure. The Premier league has long been out of control. I get that some people don't like this on principle and that's their right of course, but ultimately it's an enjoyable game of football for some of us.
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70 mins for Luke Jenkins makes the game important for me
next season he will be player of the season mark my words.

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