Support your family Club

[chimpster99]

We all know being a Shots supporter is tough at the moment, but in tough times shouldn't we all be sticking together and backing the club to the hilt. A lot of supporters myself included identify with the club in a family scenario and one thing we generally don't do is turn your back on family. I know there's a lot of Shots who are looking to stay away but I would ask those that are thinking of not going to the Rec to think again as this will only hurt the club financially.
The club according to the last accounts had 1.4 million cash debt and shares owned by various large shareholders Circa 1 million No one is going to stump up the money to buy the club and realign it's finances. 3 million is what I feel is needed to buy out and kick on, so we are stuck with the status quo hence why I feel we need to support now in times of trouble.

When Deane Wood came in we were told he had taken on the total club debt at that time of £750k. How can the debt now be 1.4 million?

Interest and additional losses I imagine.

[Red-n-Blue]

Whilst I appreciate your sentiment, WTF, I can't agree with it.

Broken promises, lack of transparency, thoughtlessness, and constant gaslighting are traits in a toxic relationship, not a family.

The club certainly had a family feel in the 1990s and 2000s when the custodians and management team worked with the supporters. Sadly, we're a million miles away from those days and it's near impossible to see them returning. That's why many fans are now preparing the divorce papers.

[Aldershot_Rob]

I think Tommy is using us as HIS family club...

Spot on. That I feel is the one point which has spread most toxicity in the club right now. I feel like he is taking us all for mugs in order to satisfy his own desires and ego. If we feel it on the terraces, the other players must be feeling it even more.

[CH]

I've always been worried about 1 man taking all the debt on.

What happens when he decides enough is enough?

[Old Bob]

We all know being a Shots supporter is tough at the moment, but in tough times shouldn't we all be sticking together and backing the club to the hilt. A lot of supporters myself included identify with the club in a family scenario and one thing we generally don't do is turn your back on family. I know there's a lot of Shots who are looking to stay away but I would ask those that are thinking of not going to the Rec to think again as this will only hurt the club financially.
The club according to the last accounts had 1.4 million cash debt and shares owned by various large shareholders Circa 1 million No one is going to stump up the money to buy the club and realign it's finances. 3 million is what I feel is needed to buy out and kick on, so we are stuck with the status quo hence why I feel we need to support now in times of trouble.

That family metaphor doesn't work, WTF. It's a soundbite.

Families don't sack family members. But we were only too pleased to sack Mark Molesley, Danny Searle, Dean Holdsworth, ...

Family members don't get sent packing when we don't want them any more, but players get sent packing all the time.

Family members don't leave and sign up with another family. Players do it all the time. Board members come and go.

Family members don't go out on loan to other families, and maybe switch allegiance permanently to the other family if it suits.

Families don't charge other family members an admission fee to come to family events. But ATFC does.

So no, ATFC is not a family. And none of us is beholden to support faithfully board members that you don't trust, managers and coaches that are making a pig's ear of their jobs, underperforming players, in the same way that you would seek to support your mother, father, sister, brother, ...

I wish my wife would go out on loan!

Can you send a photo and a few biographical details please HJ

[hepcat]

We all know being a Shots supporter is tough at the moment, but in tough times shouldn't we all be sticking together and backing the club to the hilt. A lot of supporters myself included identify with the club in a family scenario and one thing we generally don't do is turn your back on family. I know there's a lot of Shots who are looking to stay away but I would ask those that are thinking of not going to the Rec to think again as this will only hurt the club financially.
The club according to the last accounts had 1.4 million cash debt and shares owned by various large shareholders Circa 1 million No one is going to stump up the money to buy the club and realign it's finances. 3 million is what I feel is needed to buy out and kick on, so we are stuck with the status quo hence why I feel we need to support now in times of trouble.

That family metaphor doesn't work, WTF. It's a soundbite.

Families don't sack family members. But we were only too pleased to sack Mark Molesley, Danny Searle, Dean Holdsworth, ...

Family members don't get sent packing when we don't want them any more, but players get sent packing all the time.

Family members don't leave and sign up with another family. Players do it all the time. Board members come and go.

Family members don't go out on loan to other families, and maybe switch allegiance permanently to the other family if it suits.

Families don't charge other family members an admission fee to come to family events. But ATFC does.

So no, ATFC is not a family. And none of us is beholden to support faithfully board members that you don't trust, managers and coaches that are making a pig's ear of their jobs, underperforming players, in the same way that you would seek to support your mother, father, sister, brother, ...

You're working from too narrow a definition base. What about dysfunctional families ?

[Old Bob]

We all know being a Shots supporter is tough at the moment, but in tough times shouldn't we all be sticking together and backing the club to the hilt. A lot of supporters myself included identify with the club in a family scenario and one thing we generally don't do is turn your back on family. I know there's a lot of Shots who are looking to stay away but I would ask those that are thinking of not going to the Rec to think again as this will only hurt the club financially.
The club according to the last accounts had 1.4 million cash debt and shares owned by various large shareholders Circa 1 million No one is going to stump up the money to buy the club and realign it's finances. 3 million is what I feel is needed to buy out and kick on, so we are stuck with the status quo hence why I feel we need to support now in times of trouble.

That family metaphor doesn't work, WTF. It's a soundbite.

Families don't sack family members. But we were only too pleased to sack Mark Molesley, Danny Searle, Dean Holdsworth, ...

Family members don't get sent packing when we don't want them any more, but players get sent packing all the time.

Family members don't leave and sign up with another family. Players do it all the time. Board members come and go.

Family members don't go out on loan to other families, and maybe switch allegiance permanently to the other family if it suits.

Families don't charge other family members an admission fee to come to family events. But ATFC does.

So no, ATFC is not a family. And none of us is beholden to support faithfully board members that you don't trust, managers and coaches that are making a pig's ear of their jobs, underperforming players, in the same way that you would seek to support your mother, father, sister, brother, ...

You're working from too narrow a definition base. What about dysfunctional families ?

Ah, but WTF didn’t say we are a dysfunctional family, did he? But I take your point. If we are a family club, that family is more dysfunctional than the Simpsons.

[HackJowarth]

That family metaphor doesn't work, WTF. It's a soundbite.

Families don't sack family members. But we were only too pleased to sack Mark Molesley, Danny Searle, Dean Holdsworth, ...

Family members don't get sent packing when we don't want them any more, but players get sent packing all the time.

Family members don't leave and sign up with another family. Players do it all the time. Board members come and go.

Family members don't go out on loan to other families, and maybe switch allegiance permanently to the other family if it suits.

Families don't charge other family members an admission fee to come to family events. But ATFC does.

So no, ATFC is not a family. And none of us is beholden to support faithfully board members that you don't trust, managers and coaches that are making a pig's ear of their jobs, underperforming players, in the same way that you would seek to support your mother, father, sister, brother, ...

I wish my wife would go out on loan!

Can you send a photo and a few biographical details please HJ

Are we talking Bosman or Loan OB

[ShotOnTarget]

I've always been worried about 1 man taking all the debt on.

What happens when he decides enough is enough?

I think as Shots fans, we’ve seen it play out with disastrous consequences.

One regular poster who decided recently to withdraw from posting would often point out that we didn’t have a money man but would then proclaim those in charge were the best people to run the club, despite having limited finances.

A bizarre position to take in my opinion that discounted the possibility of the existence of suitable talent amongst the 1500 or so core support.

I do wonder if we would be in a better position now had the Trust bid suceeded in 2013 and a board formed with the core of, for example, Terry Owens, Graham Brookland, Brian Bloomfield.

I personally believe that we would be, not necessarily in National League but certainly heading that way.

[Alf W]

I support my local club, Aldershot and guess always will, regardless but I wouldn’t ever call us a family club.I think the divide between fans, the Management and BOD has never been greater.

[karlready]

I support my local club, Aldershot and guess always will, regardless but I wouldn’t ever call us a family club.I think the divide between fans, the Management and BOD has never been greater.

My sentiments exactly.

[scorp]

That family metaphor doesn't work, WTF. It's a soundbite.

Families don't sack family members. But we were only too pleased to sack Mark Molesley, Danny Searle, Dean Holdsworth, ...

Family members don't get sent packing when we don't want them any more, but players get sent packing all the time.

Family members don't leave and sign up with another family. Players do it all the time. Board members come and go.

Family members don't go out on loan to other families, and maybe switch allegiance permanently to the other family if it suits.

Families don't charge other family members an admission fee to come to family events. But ATFC does.

So no, ATFC is not a family. And none of us is beholden to support faithfully board members that you don't trust, managers and coaches that are making a pig's ear of their jobs, underperforming players, in the same way that you would seek to support your mother, father, sister, brother, ...

I wish my wife would go out on loan!

Can you send a photo and a few biographical details please HJ

Might be worth a punt.

[WTF]

We all know being a Shots supporter is tough at the moment, but in tough times shouldn't we all be sticking together and backing the club to the hilt. A lot of supporters myself included identify with the club in a family scenario and one thing we generally don't do is turn your back on family. I know there's a lot of Shots who are looking to stay away but I would ask those that are thinking of not going to the Rec to think again as this will only hurt the club financially.
The club according to the last accounts had 1.4 million cash debt and shares owned by various large shareholders Circa 1 million No one is going to stump up the money to buy the club and realign it's finances. 3 million is what I feel is needed to buy out and kick on, so we are stuck with the status quo hence why I feel we need to support now in times of trouble.

That family metaphor doesn't work, WTF. It's a soundbite.

Families don't sack family members. But we were only too pleased to sack Mark Molesley, Danny Searle, Dean Holdsworth, ...

Family members don't get sent packing when we don't want them any more, but players get sent packing all the time.

Family members don't leave and sign up with another family. Players do it all the time. Board members come and go.

Family members don't go out on loan to other families, and maybe switch allegiance permanently to the other family if it suits.

Families don't charge other family members an admission fee to come to family events. But ATFC does.

So no, ATFC is not a family. And none of us is beholden to support faithfully board members that you don't trust, managers and coaches that are making a pig's ear of their jobs, underperforming players, in the same way that you would seek to support your mother, father, sister, brother, ...

Apologies if I didn't make myself totally clear. The family I was referring to was the supporters on the terraces.
The club as a whole if a family would be in special measures via social services.

[Old Bob]

We all know being a Shots supporter is tough at the moment, but in tough times shouldn't we all be sticking together and backing the club to the hilt. A lot of supporters myself included identify with the club in a family scenario and one thing we generally don't do is turn your back on family. I know there's a lot of Shots who are looking to stay away but I would ask those that are thinking of not going to the Rec to think again as this will only hurt the club financially.
The club according to the last accounts had 1.4 million cash debt and shares owned by various large shareholders Circa 1 million No one is going to stump up the money to buy the club and realign it's finances. 3 million is what I feel is needed to buy out and kick on, so we are stuck with the status quo hence why I feel we need to support now in times of trouble.

That family metaphor doesn't work, WTF. It's a soundbite.

Families don't sack family members. But we were only too pleased to sack Mark Molesley, Danny Searle, Dean Holdsworth, ...

Family members don't get sent packing when we don't want them any more, but players get sent packing all the time.

Family members don't leave and sign up with another family. Players do it all the time. Board members come and go.

Family members don't go out on loan to other families, and maybe switch allegiance permanently to the other family if it suits.

Families don't charge other family members an admission fee to come to family events. But ATFC does.

So no, ATFC is not a family. And none of us is beholden to support faithfully board members that you don't trust, managers and coaches that are making a pig's ear of their jobs, underperforming players, in the same way that you would seek to support your mother, father, sister, brother, ...

Apologies if I didn't make myself totally clear. The family I was referring to was the supporters on the terraces.
The club as a whole if a family would be in special measures via social services.

[HackJowarth]

We all know being a Shots supporter is tough at the moment, but in tough times shouldn't we all be sticking together and backing the club to the hilt. A lot of supporters myself included identify with the club in a family scenario and one thing we generally don't do is turn your back on family. I know there's a lot of Shots who are looking to stay away but I would ask those that are thinking of not going to the Rec to think again as this will only hurt the club financially.
The club according to the last accounts had 1.4 million cash debt and shares owned by various large shareholders Circa 1 million No one is going to stump up the money to buy the club and realign it's finances. 3 million is what I feel is needed to buy out and kick on, so we are stuck with the status quo hence why I feel we need to support now in times of trouble.

That family metaphor doesn't work, WTF. It's a soundbite.

Families don't sack family members. But we were only too pleased to sack Mark Molesley, Danny Searle, Dean Holdsworth, ...

Family members don't get sent packing when we don't want them any more, but players get sent packing all the time.

Family members don't leave and sign up with another family. Players do it all the time. Board members come and go.

Family members don't go out on loan to other families, and maybe switch allegiance permanently to the other family if it suits.

Families don't charge other family members an admission fee to come to family events. But ATFC does.

So no, ATFC is not a family. And none of us is beholden to support faithfully board members that you don't trust, managers and coaches that are making a pig's ear of their jobs, underperforming players, in the same way that you would seek to support your mother, father, sister, brother, ...

Apologies if I didn't make myself totally clear. The family I was referring to was the supporters on the terraces.
The club as a whole if a family would be in special measures via social services.