Waving the white flag

[redblueuptoyou]

Not defending Azeem but he’s been on the board quite a long time now and we’ve had rumours of the above as long as I can remember.

Could this maybe be just as unlikely as the stadium redevelopment?

[ShotOnTarget]

Best ask why the chairman why he said being back in the football league was one of his targets. With an average finish of 15th since 2013 then why not come out and say that is where we should be.

BOD also ran up a huge 7 figure debt.

Anyway, maybe there'll news in our new ground before too long.

Mate the housing will be built but then the money will run out leaving just a village green size rec . Still a recreational park but not up to any standard of Football except intermediate. It will be move or die ,while Shahid disappears .

Suspect you are correct

Hence why 20+ years ago, a long term plan within financial constraints to gradually redevelop the Rec should have been put in place. Obviously with funding coming from outside the Ltd company that owns the club, because, as we all know and are reminded on here and every other medium, there are no funds available from within. Once the fans realise that the future might depend on the willingness of the supporter base to acknowledge the uncomfortable truths and jettison the fairy tales, we might gain a direction.

[Peter macdonald]

I would say there’s more chance of MR Lucan appearing than us having a new ground or redevelopment

[Wiltshire Shot]

I fail to understand just why our fans cannot understand that we are where we are. Yes frustrating but no point angering your heart and stress it out.

Here, here, well said Dr Jim.

All this frothing at the mouth
And Impatient waling.
Not good for the heart.
Or peace of mind.
Sit back.
Allow the manager to do what he thinks best.
Trust to patience and realism as the best way ahead.
For a club with our limited resources.
Thus let him build, test, make mistakes.
Find a path to relative success.
In harmony with the club's resources.
And when he becomes that good.
He'll leave to join the higher ups.
Reality.
Enjoy the good while you can.
In gratitude.
Here endeth the lesson.

Thanks Tommy!

Nice one, Banbury!

[Triggers Broom]

Folk forget that BOD members have already invested heavily in obtaining shares that mean they can sit on the top deck, that money in all honesty will be pretty worthless as it is just about an investment that you write off.

Our Directors may have a few bob in their banks and from time to time they very likely dip into it to loan our Club monies. Some just maybe they can write off, mostly they are not that rich to do that so want it back as and when Club able.

Personally I see no point always firing bullets at our BOD, fairly obvious they have stretched as far as they can money wise and there are no folk about to make them an offer they cannot refuse. Hence why I fail to understand just why our fans cannot understand that we are where we are. Yes frustrating but no point angering your heart and stress it out.

Best ask why the chairman why he said being back in the football league was one of his targets. With an average finish of 15th since 2013 then why not come out and say that is where we should be.

BOD also ran up a huge 7 figure debt.

Anyway, maybe there'll news in our new ground before too long.

Mate the housing will be built but then the money will run out leaving just a village green size rec . Still a recreational park but not up to any standard of Football except intermediate. It will be move or die ,while Shahid disappears .

Sadly, this is a highly probable outcome.

[Dr Jim Royle]

It is interesting that Shahid is being hung out to dry with his hopes of returning to the EFL within 5 years, ground development etc. Who remembers Terry Owens 10 year plan to return the the EFL? The programmes had a dartboard with the bullseye being this moment. I know for a fact many teams showed this to their players before a game and said things like "billy big b****cks today and lets show them how hard these leagues are", used to motivate their players. Under Terry's ship steering we gradually slowed our progression upwards. Do not remember Terry getting so much stick for his ambitions.

Just saying like.

[CH]

But Terry stepped down after 10 years. Objective failed, time for someone else to have a go.

[Mytshot]

But Terry stepped down after 10 years. Objective failed, time for someone else to have a go.

Indeed, that's the difference.

[lowerbourneshot]

It is interesting that Shahid is being hung out to dry with his hopes of returning to the EFL within 5 years, ground development etc. Who remembers Terry Owens 10 year plan to return the the EFL? The programmes had a dartboard with the bullseye being this moment. I know for a fact many teams showed this to their players before a game and said things like "billy big b****cks today and lets show them how hard these leagues are", used to motivate their players. Under Terry's ship steering we gradually slowed our progression upwards. Do not remember Terry getting so much stick for his ambitions.

Just saying like.

But for penalties Terry's dream would have been achieved in 12 years . I know under shahid we have achieved the play offs twice once where we strangely capitulated and the 2nd time where we were never going to win them . You never say never but the chances of league Football under Mr Azeem are slim

[Peter macdonald]

It is interesting that Shahid is being hung out to dry with his hopes of returning to the EFL within 5 years, ground development etc. Who remembers Terry Owens 10 year plan to return the the EFL? The programmes had a dartboard with the bullseye being this moment. I know for a fact many teams showed this to their players before a game and said things like "billy big b****cks today and lets show them how hard these leagues are", used to motivate their players. Under Terry's ship steering we gradually slowed our progression upwards. Do not remember Terry getting so much stick for his ambitions.

Just saying like.

But for penalties Terry's dream would have been achieved in 12 years . I know under shahid we have achieved the play offs twice once where we strangely capitulated and the 2nd time where we were never going to win them . You never say never but the chances of league Football under Mr Azeem are slim

Indeed pens v Shrewsbury plus had their been play offs in our Ryman years I honestly think we’d have made the conference a lot quicker than the 11 years that it took, AFC Wimbledon definitely benefited with the playoffs whereas we had to keep winning our division barring the season we finished 3rd behind Newbury and chertsey in Ryman 2

[Kidderminster Shots]

It is interesting that Shahid is being hung out to dry with his hopes of returning to the EFL within 5 years, ground development etc. Who remembers Terry Owens 10 year plan to return the the EFL? The programmes had a dartboard with the bullseye being this moment. I know for a fact many teams showed this to their players before a game and said things like "billy big b****cks today and lets show them how hard these leagues are", used to motivate their players. Under Terry's ship steering we gradually slowed our progression upwards. Do not remember Terry getting so much stick for his ambitions.

Just saying like.

But under Terry we were making progress. It was slower than we'd have liked and admittedly, we got a bit stuck under Wigley (and Borg towards the end), but we were on the up and it felt like it. We're at a tougher level now but the general consensus is that isn't happening here. Lots of facts back it up too.

I've said a couple of times now that I admire you doubling down on your commitment to Shahid and not having a bad word said about what he's doing. He's your mate, I get it, but it doesn't mean others have to see it the same as you. You're in a minority on a debate when most people are clearly seeing it another way. You're very brave to keep calling it out in the face of what's happening right now - especially on the pitch - but it's kind of denying the obvious. I remember a couple of years ago you rightly said something similar to 'clubs getting it right on the pitch, have very little wrong off it....' or something along those lines. Basically, people don't moan when we're winning. You were spot on and there was very little of this knocking about 12 months ago. Surely the current disgruntlement naturally comes when you're unsuccessful? I enjoy your views generally (about the football anyway!), but I just can't see why a spade isn't a spade on this one.

[Fuggletim]

Folk forget that BOD members have already invested heavily in obtaining shares that mean they can sit on the top deck, that money in all honesty will be pretty worthless as it is just about an investment that you write off.

Our Directors may have a few bob in their banks and from time to time they very likely dip into it to loan our Club monies. Some just maybe they can write off, mostly they are not that rich to do that so want it back as and when Club able.

Personally I see no point always firing bullets at our BOD, fairly obvious they have stretched as far as they can money wise and there are no folk about to make them an offer they cannot refuse. Hence why I fail to understand just why our fans cannot understand that we are where we are. Yes frustrating but no point angering your heart and stress it out.

Best ask why the chairman why he said being back in the football league was one of his targets. With an average finish of 15th since 2013 then why not come out and say that is where we should be.

BOD also ran up a huge 7 figure debt.

Anyway, maybe there'll news in our new ground before too long.

Mate the housing will be built but then the money will run out leaving just a village green size rec . Still a recreational park but not up to any standard of Football except intermediate. It will be move or die ,while Shahid disappears .

Might get a small carpet museum attached to an hotel complex too. Older Shots fans may know what this refers to!

[Shots1954]

It is interesting that Shahid is being hung out to dry with his hopes of returning to the EFL within 5 years, ground development etc. Who remembers Terry Owens 10 year plan to return the the EFL? The programmes had a dartboard with the bullseye being this moment. I know for a fact many teams showed this to their players before a game and said things like "billy big b****cks today and lets show them how hard these leagues are", used to motivate their players. Under Terry's ship steering we gradually slowed our progression upwards. Do not remember Terry getting so much stick for his ambitions.

Just saying like.

Sorry but Terry is a 100% Shots supporter and FOOTBALL fan. He did what he could and then did the right and honorable thing and stepped down. But Terry is still about and doing his bit and fully supporting the Club!

[Josh]

It is interesting that Shahid is being hung out to dry with his hopes of returning to the EFL within 5 years, ground development etc. Who remembers Terry Owens 10 year plan to return the the EFL? The programmes had a dartboard with the bullseye being this moment. I know for a fact many teams showed this to their players before a game and said things like "billy big b****cks today and lets show them how hard these leagues are", used to motivate their players. Under Terry's ship steering we gradually slowed our progression upwards. Do not remember Terry getting so much stick for his ambitions.

Just saying like.

Terry set one target which, although we didn't achieve, made significant progress.
Under Azeem our average finish is 15th which isn't particularly close to achieving football league status.
2 - The new ground doesn't seem to have taken off
3 - Sustainably run club - we are still massively in debt.

He has failed to come remotely close to achieving any of his targets which he himself set and said we can judge him on.

He needs to resign.

[Josh]

It is interesting that Shahid is being hung out to dry with his hopes of returning to the EFL within 5 years, ground development etc. Who remembers Terry Owens 10 year plan to return the the EFL? The programmes had a dartboard with the bullseye being this moment. I know for a fact many teams showed this to their players before a game and said things like "billy big b****cks today and lets show them how hard these leagues are", used to motivate their players. Under Terry's ship steering we gradually slowed our progression upwards. Do not remember Terry getting so much stick for his ambitions.

Just saying like.

But for penalties Terry's dream would have been achieved in 12 years . I know under shahid we have achieved the play offs twice once where we strangely capitulated and the 2nd time where we were never going to win them . You never say never but the chances of league Football under Mr Azeem are slim

That was a strange capitulation. One defeat in 23 and then we fail to turn up. Player of the Year dropping a routine cross. Kellerman making an elementary error. Weird performance